Landships II

Date: Nov 17, 2005

ww1 railway

Date: Nov 17, 2005

Hello!

The discription you've given of your model sounds very much like the 1/32 Scale Link 60cm Hudson 0-6-0 they offer. Are certain it is 1/35 ? I would think it was painted in the same colour scheme found on their lorries and guns; circa 1916. The best source of colour mixes to achieve the desired brown tone are known by Mike Cooper. I believe he offered some ideas earlier, and they can be found in the index.

None the less, I would suggest you contact the gentlemen at the address below. They are currently restoring a WDLR Baldwin 4-6-0 and can likely provide some information regarding the original colour chips found on their project. Here's the link, good luck.

info@baldwinproject.org.uk

Date: Nov 17, 2005

Dear Mr. Mueller,
Firstly, thank you for yor prompt response. I should explain this locomotive is a scratchbuilt kit, thus I could chose the scale from the early beginning . In case You are interested in the plans or an image, I will be glad to sending you as a first attemp to recognize your kind response. I assume the colour you suggest is not, at least, the original railway hue but one from a military range...in the meantime, I have sent AN E-MAIL to the adress you suggested. Speaking about the kit, I am already working on "final" detailing,(lots of rivets, hinges, etc.)
Finally,You know that I am writting from Argentina so I must apologise for any lack in my English, I only hope
to get you back your favor so don�t hesitate contact me at emamoretti@hotmail.com
Also any other fellow modeller who can help me with information wil be of course welcome.
Sincerely,
EDUARDO MAMORETTI

Date: Nov 19, 2005

Thank you Eduardo -

I too have an interest in the narrow gauge railroads of the Great War. You must post pictures of your project to me! My interests are in the feldbahn of Imperial Germany. I've searched without success for years to find scale drawings of their Brigadelokomotive. Perhaps one day.......

Date: Nov 19, 2005

Dear Mr. Mueller,

I am glad to give you the following adress, where you will find plans fron the kind you sre interested, particulary one of a german army feldbahn 080t in 1-76, also a french one and of course it is the source for my Huswell to.Some useful photos are included there.

ADRESS IS AS FOLLOWS:ww1-aircraft.info

Concerning to the shots,I will be glad to send you in time some picks. In the while I am still trying to get more info. Newcomer to this topic will be appreciated.

Yours sincerely,

Eduardo Mamoretti

Date: Nov 20, 2005

Dear Friend,

I have recieved two mails from mr. Fisher fron the Baldwin Restoration Group, the first one suggested the possibility of this locomotives were painted in some shade of gloss black. The second one, a brief later than the first, said:"Further to my earlier e-mail, I have looked up a well-known publication which is fairly precise in stating that two coats of matt black were applied. Perhaps it is just the case that, being operated mainly by railwaymen, they couldn�t help polishing them until they ceased to be matt."

Still, if you take a look on the particular example which appears in the page ww1-aircraft.info, IT SEEMS NOT TO BE painted so dark as black...I would suggest any shade of GREY OR DARK KAKHI .

I would greatly appreciate you opinion on this photo,

Best regards,

EDUARDO

Date: Nov 22, 2005

Hello Guy's

This is a fascinating subject and a much ignored one as well, I am very interested in Narrow-Gauge used during the Great War, I have a some what modest collection of material, Based mostly on the American Baldwin. There are a few good web sites on this subject, but they don�t cover all countries, and that�s a shame. I wish the interest in this subject would grow; Scale Link has done an admirable job trying to garner some interest, but as yet no larger model company in either scale has taken note. {and that�s to bad }

Here is just a few site's

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/

http://www.narrow-gauge.co.uk/gallery/

http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/Content/Bibliography/Museum%20Sites.html

Eduardo If you get a chance I would love to see pictures of you model, My love is Scratch-Building, and I love to see other modelers talents.

All the Best

Tim R

Date: Nov 23, 2005

Dear Sirs,

try http://members.shaw.ca/twofooter/ww2ftrrW-Z.htm#WW1

this site involves lot of interesting links related to WW1.

While, I am finishing my job and I am still open to colours references. My general opinion is,

up to now;STEAM LOCOMOTIVES FROM BRITIHS ORIGIN SEEM TO BE BLACK OR DARK GRAY, may be also Kakhi?

SIMPLEX VEHICULES AND RELATED ROLLING STOCK, ALSO FRENCH LOCOS, LIGHT BLUISH GREY.

Best regards

Date: Nov 24, 2005

Gentlemen: I have found some nice picks of Ford T RAILCAR in WW1, try http://www.hfstephens-museum.org.uk/pages/topics/oddity/oddity_of_oddities.htm, (also Locos)

Best regards

Date: Nov 26, 2005

http://www.bagofbits.com/tinturtle/ will provide pics on teh restoration of a kakhi simplex

also http://appeva.club.fr/cfcd3_e.htm images from French WW1 railway

good luck and best regards,

EDUARDO

Date: Nov 27, 2005

Eduardo

Thanks for sharing those web site, information on WW1 narrow-gauge is hard to come by.

All The Best

Tim R.

Date: Nov 28, 2005

Regarding the 600 mm /2 ft. gauge light railways used behind the trenches in WWI there actually exist a yahoo-group devoted to military narrow gauge railways. You can find the home page here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narrowmilitaryrail/

Lately we have been discussing the paint schemes of locos and wagons, see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narrowmilitaryrail/message/594

I have been modelling some French and British wagons in 1:35 on H0-gauge track. You can see them (and my mediocre photography skills) on http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gaz410/my_photos

Regards

Claus Nielsen, Denmark

Date: Nov 29, 2005

Hallo Claus!

I have been tempted to buy a ScaleLink loko for some time now. I've always wanted to see someone else's efforts first. Incidently, why do you refer to them as 1:35 ?

I attempted to join your Schmalspur group, but await approval. I have many questions for the forum regarding French and German Lokomotives, and rolling stock from the Great War period.

Date: Nov 29, 2005

Jack:
The difference in scale from 1:32 and 1:35 is in my view quite considerable. It is simply a matter of modeller's license that enables me to combine to two scales. Everything I sratchbuild myself is in 1:35.

Also only the Scale Link stuff is actually 1:32. The French Pechot-kits are in 1:35 scale and the scale I build my little model railway in. The WWI is a side interest - my main theme in modelling is a Danish industrial railway transporting gravel. The timespan for that theme is 1945-1960 .

Actually the Scale Link 9,45' mortar was originally marketed by German manufacturer MR-Model in 1:35 scale - so scale is appearantly open to debate! Some sources also claim the Scale Link Pechot-Bourdon steam loco to be 1:35 rather than 1:32 when compared to works drawings.

Regards

Claus Nielsen, Denmark

Date: Nov 29, 2005

Hallo Claus!

Thank you for the further explanation. I am starting a new project ( I find myself doing 3 or 4 projects at a time ) of using HO rail for my feldbahn. I haven't figured out how to break the rail into the prefabricated sections the Germans used, but will fashion something. I had planned to run the schmalspur next to my Gauge 1 loading platform to illustrate trans-loading of ammunition and supplies to the 60cm narrow gauge. My ambitious plan included a beute Pechot loko, but your comment regarding suspicions that it may not be true 1/32 scale causes me hesitation. In as much as I build only in 1/32, the considerable investment might be a mistake.

None the less, I enjoyed your photos. May I ask, do you use resistance soldering when assembling brass projects ?

Regards,

Jack

Date: Nov 30, 2005

Hi Jack
Regarding the Scale Link Pechot-Bourdon I think you should ask a wider audience than just me. It may be something I have just picked up during chatting or something and I cannot substantiate the rumour at all. Sorry if I have been a source of confusion...

When working in brass or nickel silver I use an ordinary soldering iron. I have just recently started working with soldering so I have not yet aquired a taste for the more advanced tools. Actually I normally pride myself of scratchbuilding with a minimum of expenses on tools.

My next project in the WWI area will be a 1:35 French closed wagon built on Pechot-bogies. I use drawings from a book by Christian Cenac. Great drawings in just my scale - 1:35! See more on the book on this webpage: http://laurelltrains.se/book/?pg=fr Henrik Laurell of Sweden builds models of WWI trains as well and keeps a great website - also on books of the narrow gauge railways of the other nations in WWI. Check in on: http://laurelltrains.se/book/

Regarding the track panels its my experience that a tiny cut with a saw in the railhead and dummy fishplates will represent the gap between the sections of rail better than actually sawing all the way through. It leaves the track much more durable. Sleepers could be made from forming plastic card over a wooden former or shape while hot. I have seen that done in several scales.

Do you know the magazine Narrow Gauge and Industrial Modelling Review? It is an invaluable source of modelling and prototype information for me. Among the authors are several with a massive knowledge of military narrow gauge. See the mag's website:
http://www.narrowgaugeandindustrial.com/

I would very much like to hear more on your railway modelling.

Regards

Claus

EDUARDO MAMORETTI · General

Dear Gentlemen,

Finally I have finished the locomotive;(vignette included). I hope to can get back to all you the kind assistance I recieved. I have sent the photos to Mr. Kempf, in case he could find a little room for them in the gallery.

BEST REGARDS, EDUARDO

Roger Todd · Legend

Beautiful model Eduardo, and fast work too! It's a very unusual subject, and superbly executed.

Date: Jan 6, 2006

Thank you very much,

(Fellowship was a great support.)

now I will try a 1/35 GPF(194MM) SP. GUN

Best regards, EDUARDO

Roger Todd · Legend

Anonymous wrote:

Now I will try a 1/35 GPF(194MM) SP. GUN Best regards, EDUARDO

Fab! If you need drawings, Arie Dijkhuis did some superb plans in 1/76 scale in Tankette some time ago. My email address is: rogertodd1 @ hotmail.com (yes, I'm using the old 'spaces in the email address to fool spammers' ploy!).

Matt Bittner · Private

I've been wanting to construct a Baldwin gas loco in HOn30 for quite some time. I've already purchased flex-track for the endeavor, but not quite sure how to start building a working loco.

Any hints and/or tips? TIA!

Matt Bitter

Date: Jan 6, 2006

Of course I would be glad to give assitance. Anyone interested just contact me at emamoretti@hotmail.com

best regards

EDUARDO MAMORETTI

Tim R · Hero

Absolutely an awesome job Eduardo!!!!!,

Good luck on the GPF.SP.Gun.

All the Best

Tim R

EDUARDO MAMORETTI · General

Thank you again, Mr. Rigsby I greatly admire your skills from the very first time I have seen your work, so it is encouraging for me to know your opinion.

keep in contact, Eduardo

Pete Wilson · Private

I know I have come to the discussion of the colours of the w.d. locos rather late but I have only just found the forum.
�According to the Hunlset records records for the finishing of the 4-6-0's the specified colour was matt black. This was applied to all the British steam locomotives used by the WD. The petrol locos on the other hand were dark green.I have a sample of the shade that was found during the restoration of a protected 40hp Simplex and that shade equates to� Maunsell Southern Railway light Olive available from Precision Paints.
I hope this informaion will help.

Narrowmilitaryrail · Corporal

Hello Jack and All,

�� I have Brigadelok plans and photos if anyone is interested.

Regards,
Mark Stonbraker
Moderator / Owner
narrowmilitaryrail@yahoogroups.com