Landships II

James H · Legend

Belgian Armoured Train

Hedi · Lieutenant-Colonel

This is the Artillery Wagon of the Armoured Train "Norma" or "Alice".

James H · Legend

Hedi wrote:

This is the Artillery Wagon of the Armoured Train "Norma" or "Alice".

Hedi - you can't leave it at that! Have you got more info?

Peter T · General

Found this picture of the same (?) subject:

http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/graphics/cpe_armoured_train_01.jpg

Peter T

Hedi · Lieutenant-Colonel

Source:
Paul Malmassari, Les Train Blind�s 1826-1989, Editions Heimdal

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gemsco · Captain

First time that I see a nickname for the Belgian Light armoured trains ! Norma and Alice !

Could you please specify the source of that information. Thanks. Gemsco

Centurion · Legend

I think it was he gun carriage that was named (by its British crew) not the whole train

28juni14 · Hero

Here's a couple close-ups of the gun and it's crew.� Note the Brit Blue Jackets.

-- Edited by 28juni14 on Sunday 3rd of April 2011 08:48:12 PM

gemsco · Captain

Please note that there were two types of armoured trains in Belgium during 1914 :

1) the heavy ones equiped with British naval guns and manned by Anglo-Belgian crews. These had (later) an official nickname and their batteries received also an individual�name.

2) the light ones with one Belgian made gun and with Belgian only crews. The latest pic published on the site shows the front armoured wagon of that sort of train. I have not come across any official�nickname for these 100 % Belgian trains. There were humorous names chalked from time to time on the armour, like "wagon-lits", but I am not aware of official names like "Alice" or " Norma". I am�therefore very interested to see evidence of these two last names. Gemsco

kieffer · Commander in Chief

Two other pictures. Apparantly the train had two cars, the loco in between. Car number one had a 57mm and two MG's, a third MG was on the other car. Crew existed of 60, volunteers and a second loco was for reconnaissance.

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-- Edited by kieffer on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 07:35:56 AM

-- Edited by kieffer on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 07:37:55 AM

-- Edited by kieffer on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 07:39:58 AM

William Fennerty · Corporal

Greetings, I don't know if these pictures help this thread. They are taken from the book; 'The Lines to the Front' by William Aves. I do not know if I have broken any Official Secrets Acts; Civilian Laws; Copyrights or board rules by posting them. If so please remove them and tell the 'men in black suits' not to call me......

'Boy, call me a cab!'.

'You're a cab sir'.