Landships II

Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Landships II -> Landships WW1 Forum -> Softskin vehicles -> bicycles - all armies
Post Info TOPIC: bicycles - all armies
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
bicycles - all armies
Permalink   

Is there any kit of a 1/72 bicycle? I know that Preiser and Airfix (in one of their figure sets) have 00 scale bikes, but I wonder if there is any on true 1/72 scale. If not, is there any drawings for period bicycles that are pertinent to any warring country? Perhaps all bicycles were more or less the same? What kind of equipment would a signaleer bring on them?

__________________
baldwin


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 825
Date:
Permalink   

Hi
Have a look on the Hannants site Flightpath UK item FHP7201B-Airfield Cycles.
I have bought a set its etch with lots of detail (take some happy pills first!!!!)
BJ

__________________
Barry John
andiS


Captain

Status: Offline
Posts: 78
Date:
Permalink   

The national army museum told me in reference to a query a year or so back that purpose-built military bicycles were a fairly late innovation.

I've got a couple of photos of one of my great-uncles and his unit (2/1 Derbyshire Yeomanry) as bicycle troops on home defence in 1916. If you want I can try to blow up the bicycle details for you?

__________________
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
Permalink   

Thanks for the responses!
Baldwin:
The PE bikes look nice, but would it be wise to use flat pieces for the frame? It calls for some sprue or wire scratchbuilding, but the PE spokes and gears sure can't be beaten.
AndiS:
Sure I'd like to see the photos of your great-uncles!

If military bicycles were made by civilian specs, I suppose that German, French, Belgian and Russian bikes were more or less the same?

-- Edited by d_fernetti on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 04:12:07 PM

__________________
Michael Taylor


Lieutenant-Colonel

Status: Offline
Posts: 187
Date:
Permalink   

If you are using flat PE components which need to have a rounded appearance, it is possible to build up the shape using a slow-setting epoxy resin, or a mixture of epoxy resin and oil paint. This can be applied, (carefully!), and warmed to flow slightly and give a more realistic contour. It works well on such small items as handwheels, and the etched set would benefit from the technique for the frames and bicycle seats.

__________________
jagjetta


Brigadier

Status: Offline
Posts: 270
Date:
Permalink   

d_fernetti wrote:




If military bicycles were made by civilian specs, I suppose that German, French, Belgian and Russian bikes were more or less the same?

-- Edited by d_fernetti on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 04:12:07 PM




Here are a few photos of Belgian soldiers with bicycles. I suspect the collapsible bikes were "purpose-made" for use by the Carabineers.

John

 



Attachments
__________________

John A-G.
Hudson, WI USA
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
Permalink   

Wonderful selection. Seeing a batallion of ciclysts charging must have been quite a sight! smile.gif

__________________
cdr


Lieutenant

Status: Offline
Posts: 59
Date:
Permalink   

nice photos
re belgian bicycles
The original type was a folding bicycle (from the firm Belgica) In 1908 a bicycle (acathene) without chain was introduced (?) During the war BSA bicycles were used

__________________
jagjetta


Brigadier

Status: Offline
Posts: 270
Date:
Permalink   

Thank you CDR for the info on Belgian bikes. Although I have a few photos of Belgians with bikes, I know very little about what bikes the Belgians actually used. In some of the above photos, I am not even sure if the bikes are military issue or simply a photographer's prop.

John

__________________

John A-G.
Hudson, WI USA
James H


Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3886
Date:
Permalink   

The only thing I can add to what cdr & jagjetta say above is that some of the Belgian Carabiniers (the gents with the Corsican hats) were designated as Cyclists in, I think, 1903. I haven't been able to find out any details of the Belgica. They seem to have worn either the Corsican or the conical Undress Cap, which had no peak - the former must have been very difficult to cope with while pedalling a bike. In 1911 or thereabouts they became a separate Battalion and were issued with a new peaked cap - like the existing Undress Cap but with peak and chinstrap. That looks like two of them in jagjetta's pic 4th from left in the top row.

__________________

"Sometimes things that are not true are included in Wikipedia. While at first glance that may appear like a very great problem for Wikipedia, in reality is it not. In fact, it's a good thing." - Wikipedia.
Ivan


Field Marshal

Status: Offline
Posts: 486
Date:
Permalink   

Typical Russian bicycle of 1WW "Dux Bpoyevoj" (Dux-fighting), msde by "Dux" J. Meller, Moscow.

Attachments
__________________
Джорж Дебил-Ю Буш козел вонючий!
Ivan


Field Marshal

Status: Offline
Posts: 486
Date:
Permalink   

Russian Empire, 1892.

Attachments
__________________
Джорж Дебил-Ю Буш козел вонючий!
andiS


Captain

Status: Offline
Posts: 78
Date:
Permalink   

2/1 Derbyshire Yeomanry in Wingham, Kent during 1916 - presumably on home defense duties. They were converted to a bicycle unit when their horses were needed for the 1/1 battalion in Mesopotamia.

derbyShireYeomanry1.jpgderbyShireYeomanry2.jpg

__________________
jagjetta


Brigadier

Status: Offline
Posts: 270
Date:
Permalink   

Ivan wrote:

Typical Russian bicycle of 1WW "Dux Bpoyevoj" (Dux-fighting), msde by "Dux" J. Meller, Moscow.


Gorgeous restoration, Ivan!

 



__________________

John A-G.
Hudson, WI USA
cdr


Lieutenant

Status: Offline
Posts: 59
Date:
Permalink   

re the cap of the "carabinier cyclistes" This regiment used what they called a "chapki" this is the conical green and yellow cap This came with a detachable peak (so easily lost) !

__________________
jagjetta


Brigadier

Status: Offline
Posts: 270
Date:
Permalink   

I did some digging through my photos this weekend and came up with a couple of images of French soldiers with bicycles.

John

Attachments
__________________

John A-G.
Hudson, WI USA
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
Permalink   

Wow! Cool pictures! I like the medic on wheels. God addition for an aerodrome diorama.

__________________
Ivan


Field Marshal

Status: Offline
Posts: 486
Date:
Permalink   

Russian Empire. Tzar Nikolas II on a bicycle.

Attachments
__________________
Джорж Дебил-Ю Буш козел вонючий!
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
Permalink   

He said "I want my car back"
D.

__________________
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
Permalink   

Here's something of interest:
http://www.archive.org/stream/nsillustratedwar04londuoft#page/10/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/nsillustratedwar04londuoft#page/11/mode/1up
Note the odd frame shape of the French military model, it's on Page 11 (the second link).
D.

__________________
kieffer


Commander in Chief

Status: Offline
Posts: 730
Date:
Permalink   

Hi all,

some bikers in action on the eastern front.

regards Kieffer

Attachments
__________________
kieffer


Commander in Chief

Status: Offline
Posts: 730
Date:
Permalink   

cdr wrote:

The original type was a folding bicycle (from the firm Belgica) In 1908 a bicycle (acathene) without chain was introduced (?) During the war BSA bicycles were used


Hi Carl! This will do you good: I remember the Flandria! bikes, don't know if the company still exists. The picture:bicyclists on a rest near Aalst.

 



Attachments
belcycle.xcf (539.0 kb)
__________________
kieffer


Commander in Chief

Status: Offline
Posts: 730
Date:
Permalink   

Sorry, something went wrong, saved the thing as an xcf. New try:


Attachments
__________________
28juni14


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 815
Date:
Permalink   

Bikes were used heavily by the German cavalry in the 1914 campaigns.  The organization of each cavalry Korps included a Jager Btn; one of whom's companies was  bicycle mounted( about 150 men ). 

__________________
28juni14


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 815
Date:
Permalink   

This is an old tread,  but wanted to add this pic.   It is one of the better examples in my collection.   Hope all enjoy.

Attachments
__________________
Pat


Commander in Chief

Status: Offline
Posts: 600
Date:
Permalink   

Very nice images on show here - thanks to all contributors for sharing!

__________________
Paul H


Major

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:
Permalink   

Hat is doing some belgian bycyclists in 1/72nd (I think that ws part of the original question?)
https://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/figdude/03/AAtemp2/ww1belgianb.jpg

__________________
RARO SENEX MUTAT SENTENTIAM


http://paulsbods.blogspot.com/
d_fernetti


Hero

Status: Offline
Posts: 823
Date:
Permalink   

Here's something of interest: an Italian folding bicycle! Lots of period and actual colour pictures.
http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/bianchi-military-folding-bicycle-model-1912/

bersaglieri_8.jpg



-- Edited by d_fernetti on Tuesday 3rd of July 2012 02:18:15 AM

__________________
Pzkpfw-e


Commander in Chief

Status: Offline
Posts: 628
Date:
Permalink   

kieffer wrote:
cdr wrote:

The original type was a folding bicycle (from the firm Belgica) In 1908 a bicycle (acathene) without chain was introduced (?) During the war BSA bicycles were used


Hi Carl! This will do you good: I remember the Flandria! bikes, don't know if the company still exists. The picture:bicyclists on a rest near Aalst.

 

Still going strong!



 

 



__________________
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.
Landships II -> Landships WW1 Forum -> Softskin vehicles -> bicycles - all armies
Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse 		Powered by ActiveBoard