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Peter T


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Hello guys

For several years now I am collecting documents (plans, photos, drawings) on the Artilleriezugwagen Austro-Daimler M.17 (Czech VZ 17).

Even so my collection consist of barely 20 (often small) pictures, and some drawings.  It seems that there are hardly more to be found.

If anybody has more documents, links or detailed informations about this specific vehicle, anx help is highly appreciated.

Cheers, Peter T



-- Edited by Peter T on Friday 31st of July 2009 05:28:16 PM

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hello peter, i am also collecting since a few years. i searched my unsorted data and found all the pictures you showed here, but not the last two. is it possible to share them?
do you have the datasheet of the m. 17 from www.doppeladler.com ? thats the only thing i can think of.

best regards

curt

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Hi Curt

If you could send me your e-mail address a will do the scans.
Yes, I have the datasheet as I have contributet at least in part with two pictures therein some years ago.

May be someone of you knows what happened to the vintage model in the Wiener Neustädter Stadtmuseum? Upon my request for pictures I received no answer! Or is there an Austrian member that could do some photos just around the corner for us?

Best regards

Peter



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I think I remember a picture of Hungarian or Czech troops in the early 1930ies with Austro-Daimler M.17. Is that possible?

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Dear Colleage, Much of the material I have checked is the same you already posted, with I think  the  exception attached.
Nevertheless, I carry on searching...
Best Regards, Ed

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Thank a lot for your efforts. According to my references 138 Artilleriezugwagen M17 "Goliath" were built. Just a few remained after the war in Austria. Most of them found their way into the Italian and Czech army. One machine was evaluated by the Swiss army as you can see on this picture.

Some others were found in WW 2 by German troops in one of the Balkan States (Serbia?).

I'm quite sure that none of them has survived. Therefore in my eyes the 1/15 factory model in the Wiener Neustädter Stadtmuseum becomes the status of primary source.

So the hope remains that an Austrian fellow could do some good detail shots smile

Greeting, Peter



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May a sugest differents options for findind the subject in google, ie, sometimes I found it under the label "SKODA ARTILLERY TRACTOR" ; even "Porsche artillerie Zug",  and there are around some  confused sources which speaks about the vehicule sometimes as Porsche B zug or Porsche C zug  as if it were the same thing.
Keep seaching, Ed

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Hi all,

I found on eBay recently this photograph of two Austro-Daimler M. 17 Artilleriezugwagen tractors towing a 15cm Skoda M15-16 heavy gun in two loads.

I do not know if this photo shows machines in service with the Austro-Hungarian Army in WW1 or the Czech Army post WW1.

Regards Sturm78


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Hello dear Peter! how this new project is?
very best regards!smile

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Hello Eduardo

Well, I've been a bit busy not modelling lately, as time is very limited during these days. So after a long break away from the modelling bench, and not being inspired by what I currently would have on the bench, I decided to get started into something new - an aircraft! But now my current modelling project turned out to be a real challenge due to incomplete references too.

You can see my current attempts (or should I say: stagnation?) here:

http://www.greatwaraviation.com/forum/index.php/topic,859.0.html

 

Back to the Austro-Daimler M. 17. I do not have a story behind this yet, but Theo asked me if I am interested in some walk-around pictures, he made long time ago ...

Of course I do

 

All the best, Peter

 



-- Edited by Peter T on Sunday 23rd of September 2012 11:05:23 AM

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Hello gents

More then three years ago I started this thread and it appeared to have hit the end of the road ...

In the meantime this project remained on hold, but now I am beginning to see glimmers of hope.

Theo from Denmark (many, many thanks, Theo) wrote me in annother forum that there was (is?) this vehicle standing unnoticed for a long time near the Egeskov museum!!!

Cheers, Peter



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Good Peter!!

Very happy to know about You!

Oh my God, you always pop up with wonders!!!

Never imagined one survived!

Any story behind this?

All the best, EDUARDOsmile



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Goog to know really about you der colleague, I hope your wife and daughter are fine!

This is an outstanding finding, taking into consideration the rarity of the vehicule,  sadly, I think, this unique piece would be better exposed under the roof of a museum.

I am really astonished for the finding. Thank you for sharing with us,

Besides I invite You to see more ww1 stuff as apart of my FLICKR photstream under the label EMAMORETTI.

I wil be glad to see your always beautifull model at greatwaraviation.com

All the best!

Edsmile



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Amazing! Yes please, lets see some more photos.
My wife is always asking mw where we should go for our holidays. Denmark is now top of the list.

Tim


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Great War Truck wrote:

Amazing! Yes please, lets see some more photos.
My wife is always asking mw where we should go for our holidays. Denmark is now top of the list.

Tim

 Please smilemake room for me!



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Wow, what an amazing survivor!

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Hi all,

 

Although it´s not strictly related with the M12, it´s with one of its predecessors.

 Not completely sure about the administrator´s policy about new topics.

Here you can see a picture of a Daimler tractor purchased by the Spanish Army in the ending of 1912 or maybe the beginning of 1913. Its engine gave between 88 and 105 HP. In a first moment it was used as an experimental vehicle in the Comisión de Experiencias de Artillería (an institution in charge of testing new vehicles and guns); it was still operational in 1925-1926, taking part in the jobs to install 15 inches guns in Galicia, helping an Aveling & Porter road locomotive.



The Spanish Army also operated two more tractors for the Siege Artillery Regiment, an Austro Daimler (М09, 4x4, a brief reference here) and a Skoda. You can find pictures of them in the Vanderveen´s book focused in pre IWW vehicles.

Do you have more data, references, blueprints of it? In fact I´m very interested in the three vehicles.

Regards



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Army of Kingdom Yugoslavia had very few Artilleriezugwagen Austro-Daimler M.17. Maximum 10 to 12 vehicle.

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