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A bit of searching has turned up another two WW1 German guns in Brisbane. One, I think, is a 7.7cm C96 a/A captured from the Ottomans in Palestine,. The other is said to be a 105mm Krupp field gun. Can the experts confirm/supply the identification please.

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Charlie


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Only the second piece is German; ( 10cm K 04 with verticle breach block).

the first image depicts the rohrhinterwagen carrying the tube for a 15cm M.14 Feldhaubutze of the KuK.    (The weapon was transported in two loads.)  
Actually,  this is a rare item.   I know of only one other in existance today;  that being the example displayed in the Musee Royale de l' Armeei n Brussels.

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The first one is not a gun but instead it is a barrel cart for transporting the gun barrel separate of the carriage.  Notice that there is no recoil mechanism.  The second photo, as Jack mentioned in his post, is a German 10cm Kanone 1904.

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Ralph Lovett
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Thank you for the identifications.

I'll try to get a walkaround series for these in the next few weeks, I'll post the URL here.

Regards,

Charlie


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Hi

I agree with the identification of the Rohrhinterwagen, similar to the one showned in Brussels.

But the tube does not looks like a 15cm M14 FH to me.

Here is the Brussels guy :



The tube looks really different (the Aussie one looks longer...)

Your thoughts ?

Bernard

-- Edited by Guns1418 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 04:21:31 AM

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...at first glance I thought the extended tube was the result of a clumsy restoration; wherein an unrelated weapon's barrel was mounted on the wagon,  but you've caused a closer examination, Guns14-18.

It is likely the barrel of the 10,4cm M15 Kanone in as much as that weapon system shared the modified rohrwagen of the 15cm M14 sFH. 

We'll have to wait for the walk-around pics to see what's inscribed on the breach.

-- Edited by 28juni14 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 08:44:32 AM

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I've found a better image of the barrel transport vehicle - perhaps that will help the identification. The site this image came from (www.lighthorse.org.au) said it was the only "gun" captured by a general officer - perhaps no one wanted to tell the general it wasn't a gun.

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Charlie



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Here's an image of the back of the breech of the Rohrhinterwagen at Brisbane Grammar. I read it as:

10.4 cm M.15 Kan. Nr. 342
1917

The identification as a 10.4cm M.15 Skoda gun barrel appears to be confirmed.

Are there any surviving complete M.15 guns?

Regards,

Charlie

-- Edited by CharlieC on Monday 7th of December 2009 02:38:52 AM

-- Edited by CharlieC on Monday 7th of December 2009 03:25:26 AM

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A prestine example is displayed in the Vienna museum.

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Hi Guys,

I know this is dredging up an old post, but I'm very interested in the Skoda 10.4cm M15 Cannon used by the Austro-Hungarian Army during WW1, which was reused by the Italians during WW2 as the Cannone da 105/32.

I have some pictures of the example in the Vienna museum, but am looking for plans or scale drawings. I'm hoping for something similar to the excellent line drawings by Arie Dijkhuis.

This will aid me greatly in trying to knockup a scratch built or kit bashed version of this gun in 1/72.

 

Cheers,

 

Steve.



-- Edited by hailultramar on Sunday 22nd of January 2012 10:38:45 PM

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