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I'm pretty sure the top pic is the LKII. The Stridsvagn had the altered front, and it's a Stridsvagn at Munster.
There's no MG port in the door, but that looks as if it might be one at the rear (in Michel's third pic). I wonder if the LKII had one.
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Sorry, this isn't new after all. There are a couple of illustrations of the LKII Kanone with the MG in situ. PDA has got one in his photostream. The rear MG was only on the Swedish development of the LKII.
If I remember our earlier discussions correctly, what is missing from the record is a photo or drawing of the LKII MG version. What is usually shown is actually the Stridsvagn.
But that does seem to indicate that the supposed Hungarian LKIIs can't have been of German origin. They are too like the Stridsvagn and must have come from Sweden.
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(Sorry, this isn't new after all. There are a couple of illustrations of the LKII Kanone with the MG in situ. PDA has got one in his photostream. The rear MG was only on the Swedish development of the LKII.)
Will these misinterpretations of facts ever going to stop?
Sweden did not do any development of the LKII, Sweden bought LKII MG version in parts and assembled them.
(If I remember our earlier discussions correctly, what is missing from the record is a photo or drawing of the LKII MG version. What is usually shown is actually the Stridsvagn.) The "Stridsvagn" is same thing as LKII MG.
(But that does seem to indicate that the supposed Hungarian LKIIs can't have been of German origin. They are too like the Stridsvagn and must have come from Sweden.)
The Hungarian LKII were also German built MG tanks and have nothing to do with Sweden. The fact that they are alike depends on that both are made in Germany.
Kjell - all is now much clearer. All along I have been wondering why the front of the Stridsvagn is different from the front of the LKII Kanoneversion, sloping the opposite way. I have just reread Rainer Strasheim's article on the main Landships site, and he explains it:
In the meanwhile, the skipping of the LK II machine gun armed prototype had backfired. When production started, it was found that cooling of engine and crew compartment was inadequate. The solution to this problem, which was finally found by adding a fan, dragged along until October 1918. It was his fan that now led to the inverted nose of the production vehicle.
So the rear of the Kanoneversion must also have been altered on the production model of the MGversion to accommodate the rearward-firing MG. I do apologise for not realising that earlier. The rest of my argument is therefore rubbish.
However, I have read somewhere an account that doubts Hungary's ability to buy LKIIs direct from Germany and suggests some form of Swedish intermediacy. I should be pleased to hear your thoughts, expressed in a calm and pleasant manner, as is customary on the Forum.
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