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The American Legion has a 1918 75MM Cannon for sale. Please email karaokekl@att.net if interested.



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I'm not sure about the claim a 1918 gun is Korean since Korea was under Japanese occupation from 1910 - 1945 and had no indigenous armed forces.

I suspect the gun may be Japanese possibly a Type 38  (75mm Krupp export gun) or Type 41 (75mm Krupp M08 Gebirgskanone). 

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Charlie



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Are you sure that Japanese Type 41 mountain gun was a copy of 75mm Krupp M08 Gebirgskanone?
For a long time I think Type 41 is almost identical(at least regarding the earlier verison) to Ehrhardt mountain guns (like this: http://s400910952.websitehome.co.uk/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/mountaingun.htm).

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kkfj1 wrote:

Are you sure that Japanese Type 41 mountain gun was a copy of 75mm Krupp M08 Gebirgskanone?
For a long time I think Type 41 is almost identical(at least regarding the earlier verison) to Ehrhardt mountain guns (like this: http://s400910952.websitehome.co.uk/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/mountaingun.htm).


 Pretty sure - the 75mm Gebirgskanone M08 is noted in Kosar's "Artillerie im 20. Jahrhundert" as the 7.5cm Gebirgskanone Meiji 41 built for Japan. A notable difference between this gun and Krupp's standard products is the use of an interrupted screw breech block. The Japanese seem to have been happier with interrupted screw breeches - the 15cm Krupp howitzer supplied to Japan before WW1 also had an interrupted screw breech.

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Charlie



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This is a Cannon believed to be used in WWI, WWII & the Korean Wars.



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willowpiper wrote:

This is a Cannon believed to be used in WWI, WWII & the Korean Wars.


 Any chance of some images of the gun, especially any breech markings?

Regards,

Charlie



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CharlieC wrote:
kkfj1 wrote:

Are you sure that Japanese Type 41 mountain gun was a copy of 75mm Krupp M08 Gebirgskanone?
For a long time I think Type 41 is almost identical(at least regarding the earlier verison) to Ehrhardt mountain guns (like this: http://s400910952.websitehome.co.uk/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/mountaingun.htm).


 Pretty sure - the 75mm Gebirgskanone M08 is noted in Kosar's "Artillerie im 20. Jahrhundert" as the 7.5cm Gebirgskanone Meiji 41 built for Japan. A notable difference between this gun and Krupp's standard products is the use of an interrupted screw breech block. The Japanese seem to have been happier with interrupted screw breeches - the 15cm Krupp howitzer supplied to Japan before WW1 also had an interrupted screw breech.

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Charlie


 Yes after some searching I agree with your thoery.

The Japanese loved interrupted screw block since late 1890s when they introduced the Type 31 QF field and mountain guns. However, in 1930s the trend seemed to reversed and both modified Type 38 and Type 90 used sliding blocks(if I remember correctly).

I would like to ask if the first batches of these "German origin" Japanese guns(Type 38, Type 41, etc) were actually made in German and sent to Japan, or did the Germans only built one or two prototypes and all the production guns were made in Japan?



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The 75mm Type 38 seems to have had a sliding block breech throughout its production run. I have images (somewhere) of 1908 built Type 38 gun with a sliding breech similar to the Model 1904 Krupp gun. 

The Type 90 field gun was based on a French design (Schneider?).

That's a good question - don't know - I'd guess Krupp supplied at least a small number of "pattern" guns to help the Japanese manufacture.

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Charlie



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Sorry my mistake. The Type 38 always has a sliding block, and the Type 41 7.5cm cavalary gun has interrupted screw-I always mix them up.
I asked that question because I have just read in a Japanese book that the first batch of Type 31 mountain guns were produced in a foreign country, I don't know if this is also true for some later guns.

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is this still for sale if so contact susmiester@aol.com thanks



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