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James H


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This pic appears in a number of references (Danjou, Jeudy, etc) captioned as the second FT prototype along with Louis Renault.

I would venture to suggest that it isn't LR. There isn't much of a likeness as far as I can see. Copyright prevents me from supplying photographic evidence, but I think the gent is Charles Edmond Serre.

 



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Judging by the pic on the right, which I presume is Louis Renault as it says, then I agree, it is not him standing next the tank. Ears are said to be unique to each individual, and the ears do not match, particularly as Renault's right ear appears not to stick out as much as the left one, whereas the gent by the tank has ears which stick out more evenly, a higher hairline, perhaps eyebrows further apart? Different men anyway.

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I would'nt put money on it either way the only pic I can find of Charles Edmond Serre shows an older man and doesn't look terribly similar...

Pic here Charles Edmond Serre

a relevant thread here http://www.les-renault-d-avant-guerre.com/t1764-Charles-Edmond-SERRE.htm the mentioned Biogs might supply the info.

Edit: another link with more pics of Serre as a younger man this is more convincing to me, it may well be him but I think a better pic with the Renault mockup is needed.

http://louisrenault.com/index.php/temoignages/684-entretien-filme-avec-jacqueline-serre-15-mars-2012

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It's difficult to say one way or the other. While the two pictures don't look like the same man, the difference could be caused by lense distortion, especially to the one standing in front of the tank.


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I'm becoming more convinced. The pic Ivor links to shows an appropriately blobby nose. But the photos here are interesting:

http://www.louisrenault.com/index.php/temoignages/684-entretien-filme-avec-jacqueline-serre-15-mars-2012

I think the 1910 shot is a contender. Head's a similar shape, eyebrows wide apart. Ears . . . ?

In the 1936 photo there's a hint of Captain Mainwaring, imo, but by the time of his death Rodolphe Ernst-Metzmaier was a ringer for Bernard Manning.



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