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Hi, I am looking for inspiration and some guidance.  I have completed A17. OH I SAY !!!  bar the weathering.  The 'Male' tank has been finished in the more readily recognised Solomon pattern so I am wondering what 'Male' number/name might  readily be found in proximity to A17.  Not 'in action' but preparing to.

advice welcome.



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No one able to help? My references are a bit thin on detail indeed the only reference I can find at the moment is for another 'female' plus, of course, 'We Are All In It'. Did A Company have any 'Male' tanks? A number and/or name would be great.

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Well now, a 'Google' using another combination of tanks/A Company/1916/names etc, etc, etc bought me back to - This very site and a page in Tanks. Now I thought I had exhausted every avenue on this forum, but it appears I didn't. I shall follow a suggestion by Rhomboid, in that thread, alluding to A Company perhaps favouring naming their tanks after musicals of the time. A13 'We're all in it' and A17 'Oh, I say !!!' are examples with "Look Who's Here" and "Watch your Step" as other known tank names and period musicals. Unfortunately no numbers are associated with those names nor can they be absolutely associated with A Company. So, for the sake of it, and unless anyone has any objections, I shall give my 'Male' tank the Number A 14 and the name 'H.M.L.S "Look Who's Here"'. It is going to be fun ensuring I make the decals to match the cammo pattern and colours!

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Trevor Pidgeon, in "Tanks on the Somme", suggested that there was an A Company male tank called "Ariadne". In my opinion his evidence isn't ironclad, and there is no company number for the tank.



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Thanks Rhomboid. I am going to run with A14 HMLS Look who's here, I like your thinking on this in the other thread. I've even started working on the decals!!

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Following my last, I offer a preview of how the 'Male' will look.



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For reasons I cannot fully explain, I intend making a model of A13 'We're All In It', a model that has been done many times as the markings are available in the AIRFIX 'Female'. The paint scheme on the MasterBox tank appears to be an interpretation of the original as does the box artwork of the AIRFIX offering; but there the similarities end. Olive Drab, Khaki Drab and Ochre are the suggested colours by AIRFIX but Pale Blue!, 'Hull Red', Khaki Grey and Dark Sand are the MB suggestions. So, do I use colours similar to those on 'Oh, I Say !!!' or something different? Certainly Pale Blue is not an option so that would certainly be replaced with Grey, Hull Red - yep I could use the same lightened Ochre as A17, Dark Sand(ish) I have used on A14 but a more pinkish colour on A17 and following advice on available colours from Rhomboid - I guess Lt Brunswick Green. Not 100 years has passed and the colours remain a 'best guess'.

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HI,

I would have to agree that the pale blue is actually a bad translation of a grey with a slight blue hue to it, which is common in Navy greys.

Here's a colour chart I often use when trying to work out colours, they show RAL and British Standard colours. Colour Chart

Another thing to do is look for British guns and equipment that still has Camouflage on them.

Helen x

 



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I think that some of the colour suggestions, such as "pale blue", derive from the original Airfix painting guide. The guide appears to have been based on the scheme applied to 785 (the MkII currently at the Tank Museum) while it was on display at Chertsey in the 1950's, retrofitted to look like a MkI.



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Good theory but the 'Pale Blue' is a Master Box colour suggestion! I shall go with a grey, an ochre, a dark sand and green for the lines. No black out lines, let us see how it looks. I was quite surprised today, I placed the 2 tanks out of the way and they happened to end up on a grey scale photo, "OH, I SAY !!!" all but disappeared against that back ground.

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The decals have been made and applied, contrast between the white and sand is not so great but hay Ho! I will take some photos and put them on here when I have touched up the edges. (I have to use white decal paper and print the colours and getting them to match is a challenge plus you tend to get white edges around the decal - but until there are 'white ink' printers that is the best I can do.

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Attached you will find some photos of the applied decals. You will see that they are not as distinct as the preview shots posted earlier (those were thanks to CorelDraw and Photoshop). I have to use white decal paper and, essentially, the Name and Numbers are not printed thus producing the white, what this means is that the end product is dependant upon the ability of the printer to lay down the background colours accurately - clearly my laser printer isn't that good at it! Perhaps I should have tried my ink jet - but then the decals need a coat of varnish before being applied. Still, the end result gives the right impression and, after weathering, the details will become even less distinct. My planned diorama will include "Oh, I Say !!!", "Look Who's Here" and "We're All In It" - all will have the full canopy that seems to be a feature of A Company tanks.



-- Edited by TeeELL on Wednesday 9th of April 2014 10:29:14 AM

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I have cheated - the canopy has been borrowed from "Oh, I Say !!!"! When I construct the canopies for "We're All In It" and "Look Who's Here" I will do some measuring and put the plans on here.

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The camo looks really good TeeELL, once it's toned down with a bit of weathering it'll look really convincing.
You have my admiration for the decal printing that must be a labour of love reverse printing the white with camouflage!

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