Landships II

ivstefano · Captain

Skoda 305 gun - Belgrade/Weissenbourg

Roger Todd · Legend

Great photos, Yvan, thanks! Again, good angles and detail shots.

Interestingly, that gun appears to have an extra section on the front of the cradle - it appears to be a riveted tube, clearly shown in PICT0029 and PICT0042, inside which the barrel slides and which doesn't appear on other photos I've seen.

28juni14 · Hero

Roger -

Are you refering to the sleeve-like extention before the cradle? If so, that is the "wiege", or counter-weight sweated to the barrel. It provided both balance, and tube strength.

Ivan - Did you also take detail photographs of the Rohrwagen ? It is, to my knowledge, the only example still in existance.

Roger Todd · Legend

Hi 28juni1914 - ah, you mean to counterbalance the heavy breech? Interesting, thanks! Presumably it was a later addition.

ivstefano · Captain

Dear 28 VI 14,

Rohrwagen?

You mean the carriage? I already posted those in the forum under the name �Skoda carriage�.

Can you tell me more about the usage of it. Was it designed to carry ammunition, the base for the gun or both?

I am bit ignorant about artillery, but I would sure like to scratchbuild this one�

Best,

I

Peter Kempf · Field Marshal

Ivan!

THANKS for your pics! Great! I've always wanted to see photos of the Belgrade 30.5cm.

I will post them on the site as well, of course giving the full credits to you.

Do you have more???

Again: many, many thanks!

ivstefano · Captain

Peter,

Do you mean more photos of 305? For those I�ll have to go to the museum again, but there are a lot of photos I took.

I repeat � a large part of exhibition is going trough restoration so it is not accessible now.

I guess I�ll ask you some more later as there are things that I am sctratchbuilding and that I would like to make�

Till soon,

I

28juni14 · Hero

Ivan -

Ah, now I see where you have posted the additonal pictures. The rohrwagen was used, as the name emplies, to transport the barrel(rohr in German). The 30,5cm M11 was moved in 3 seperate loads. The rohrwagen carried the barrel, another wagon (bettungswagen) the huge folding fireing base, and the last wagen (seen at the museum with the barrel mounted: lafettenwagen)) was actually the cradle and carraige with detachable fore & aft sets of wheels(protzen). Often, as an expediency, the barrel was left mounted when relocating short distances to alternate fire positons . (Necessary because of enemy counter-batterie action).

Again, to my knowledge, Roverto has the carraige and tube, Prague the carraige and tube, but only Belgrade the carraige, tube, and rorhwagen. Sadly, I've am not aware of the bettungswagen having survived anywhere.

Peter Kempf · Field Marshal

Ivan!

No, not more of the 305 - they are just great. I meant more pics of WW1 Artillery. And I see that my prayers are answered with the Deport and the Russian 122mm.

Again: many, many thanks!