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MarkV


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Hello,

I have just come across a copy of Rear-Admiral Sir Murray Sueter's 1937 book The Evolution of the Tank: A Record of Royal Naval Air Service Catepillar Experiments for sale on EBay. (I am not the seller, nor do I know or have any affiliation with the seller. I am posting this link as a reference to information found in this book.)

The advertisment includes a number of photos scanned from the book, including one showing a squadron of Rolls Royce armoured cars that I had not seen before. It also includes a list of illustrations that mentions several more photos of Rolls Royce armoured cars. Unfortunately these photos are missing from the book for sale on EBay and I have been unable to track down a copy in a library in the United States.

Does anyone have access to a copy of this book who could share or describe the Rolls Royce armoured car photos it contains?

Also, the advertisement includes what appears to be a partial listing of "diagrams". Are these "diagrams" actually scale plans or merely rough sketches? To the best of my knowledge no wartime scale drawings of the Rolls Royce armoured cars exist. Although the incomplete list in the advertisment doesn't specifically mention plans for the Rolls Royce AC, it does mention "diagrams" for "The Body of a Revolving Turret Armoured Car" placed on a "Killen Strait Caterpillar Machine". Are there plans for a Rolls-Royce style body or turret in this book?

Thank you for your assistance,

Mark

-- Edited by MarkV at 18:16, 2006-12-05

-- Edited by MarkV at 18:17, 2006-12-05

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Peter Kempf


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I have no idea, as to the quality of these plans.


Thanks for the tip, though. This might be a book worth having!



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Hi MarkV: I've consulted this book (a first edition is in the archives where I work) and, fascinating as it is, you won't find it of any use vis-a-vis plans and drawings. The (excellent!) scans on that eBay entry are entirely representative (and I'm really pleased to see the Nesfield drawing!). As far as I recall, there is nothing that one could term a 'plan', 'diagram' or scale drawing, except for a profile section of Sueter's design - quelle surprise, the book having been, after all, written by Sueter (see below). The single drawing (a front three-quarter view, IIRC) of the Killen Strait with armoured car body and turret is one of those sketchy 'woodcut style' illustrations terribly characteristic of 1930s publications; it occupies the lower part of one page and is probably barely 3" by 4". An old thread on this very board has another drawing, at the same angle as (but in a different style from) the Sueter illustration:


http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=63528&p=3&topicID=5324769


Meanwhile, this reference...


DIAGRAM I: The First Conception of the Royal Naval Air Service Caterpillar Landship
This drawing was laid before the Admiralty Landship Committee on 4th March, 1915, and is the first authentic drawing of a Caterpillar Land-ship laid before Authority in the Great War.


...is to a drawing in the book of Sueter's pedrail landship concept (upon which, I suspect, John Batchelor based his drawing in his and Kenneth Macksey's book Tank).



-- Edited by Roger Todd at 19:22, 2006-12-05

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MarkV


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Roger,

Thank you for the informative reply.

By the way - The same seller has quite a few other WWI and armour-related books up for sale with equally informative advertisements, complete with many scanned photos. Just visit the EBay link I posted previously and then click on the "view seller's other items" link.

Mark

-- Edited by MarkV at 20:26, 2006-12-05

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D'oh! I always forget to check vendors' other stuff! Very interesting items there, thanks MarkV!

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