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I visited the North Head Artillery Museum in Sydney today. Will post some more pics subsequently but thought I'd put these shots of a rare Turkish mountain gun up for starters. It is supposed to be one of eight that were captured by the Anzacs.

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Peter K., I jotted down a few notes and would be happy to knock them into shape for an article if you're interested.

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This time it's the German 15cm feldkanone. A note on the colour scheme; it's not original, obviously, but I asked about it and was told that it had been reconstructed. However, it is stored outside and the sun has been fairly harsh (and possibly the sea air as well) on the colours. I tried to get some detail shots where the sun had done the least damage. Quite a few different colours, blue-grey, pink, red-brown, and greens. The red markings are there to show battle damage.

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Hallo Mark,

this is a real sensation for me. Never seen this colouering (and never believed, that pink and these light blue shades where used.) Where do you say this museum is? Australia. Unbelievable. Do you trust that reconstruction? Why is the barrel not painted? Was it originally not?

Wow, if this is real, I can make a very fancy model out of my FineScaleFactoy 15cm FK.

The ANZAC's howling this gun home? Really?
Thanx for this nice pics.

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Good questions about the colours, Paul. The pink and blue may be faded versions of red-brown and grey, but the Amiens gun in Canberra also has pink camouflage so maybe not. The barrel: Can't answer that one; perhaps they didn't have enough information or existing colour to go on and just painted it or left it green and brown. There are some black and white photos in the main Landships site showing this gun in a speckled camouflge scheme, amongst others.

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I may be suffering from deja vu but I'm sure I've seen a similar conversation on the colouring of these two guns, complete with colour photo of the NHAM gun somewhere before either on this forum or just possibly another (but that would have to be missing lynx)

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Some of the mortars and MG's from North Head. I've added a couple of pre-WWI MG's because, well, they just looked too good to leave out!

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Centurion wrote:

I may be suffering from deja vu but I'm sure I've seen a similar conversation on the colouring of these two guns, complete with colour photo of the NHAM gun somewhere before either on this forum or just possibly another (but that would have to be missing lynx)



It was this forum on the 15cm Feldkanone i.R. L/40 thread. A friend of mine visited a while before I did and, knowing my interest in WWI, took a few photos of the gun. He's more interested in WWII. I felt that the best way of trying to clear up the colour question was to ask.


-- Edited by Mark Hansen at 21:49, 2007-05-31

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Field gun and howitzer
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An 18 pounder (I know, common as muck) and a 4.5 inch howitzer.

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Naval guns and Furphy
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A 6 inch gun from the original HMAS Brisbane, a Hotchkiss 6pdr, and a Furphy water cart which has given Australia a polite way of saying b******t. Somewhat similar to the American water-cooler talk.

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So at least we can't unravel the mystery about the colours. The articel about the German Camo here on Landships is what we have and maybe wrong reconstuctions or even good ones.
Without any technicolour it is not possible to say something definitive. But I think I will although paint my gun like this. Thanx for the pics.



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The Turkish piece is a German built Krupp 7,5cm. Gebirg Kanone L/13.  These were exported from Germany to the Ottoman Empire, Chile, Afghanistan and the German Colonies.  I have a good operational example of one in my collection complete with the sights.  The link for the web page on this piece is:
 http://lovettartillery.com/7.5cm_Gebirg_Kanone_L_13.html


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Mark,
I finally came across this site looking for info on the 77mmKrupp field gun 96, I did my gunners course at North Head way back in 1967 and therfore most interested in your comments on the Turkey mountain gun, I believe that in Corrigin WA they have one at their memorial under cover and in very good condition, unfortunatly when I visited the memorial it was late in the evening and couldn't get a good photo.

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Mark Hansen wrote:

Peter K., I jotted down a few notes and would be happy to knock them into shape for an article if you're interested.


If you still have those notes, Mark...



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I'll do some digging and see if they've survived various purges. An article on the museum itself will be redundant however. It closed as of Dec. 2010. The exhibits will be relocated to a new museum being built at Puckapunyal.

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Would be nice if the Artillery Museum at Puckapunyal was being built. The exhibits are to be stored in a warehouse in Bandiana with possible eventual display at a proposed museum at the School off Artillery at Pucka. I'd guess the exhibits will get cherry picked by the AWM and others long before they get to Puckapunyal.

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You're right Charlie. I misread the announcement and thought the museum was at least in the planning stage.



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