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Massimo Foti


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I see now, your doubts are about the picture.

I don't remember any shield used on the 149G, but I may be wrong, I am not an expert.
I'll try and dig my books once I will be back home and see what I can find.

Massimo

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Kosar in "Artillerie im 20 Jahrhundert" has a page on a gun he calls "Feldkanone 149mm M77"

He notes the Italian designation as "Kanone 149 G".

The it.wikipedia says the gun was originally known by Anslado designation "15 Ret GRC" then "149G" and finally Canone 149/23.

Originally the Cannone 149/23 was designed as a fortress gun but was pressed into service as a field gun during WW1 along with the more modern

Cannone 149/45 Modelo 1901.

The Batchelor drawing doesn't look like 149G, the barrel is too small relative to the carriage. There was a 120mm of similar vintage to the 149G

perhaps the drawing is meant to be a representation of the 120mm.

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Charlie

 



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Well, Charlie! I had some suspicions on the picture barrel caliber, but I thought it was something like a distortion of proportions in the drawings...
But what it was an italian 120 mm gun with such a barrel? Something like that? http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/120/21



-- Edited by Capitan Print on Monday 10th of March 2014 07:53:07 PM

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CharlieC wrote:

....The Batchelor drawing doesn't look like 149G, the barrel is too small relative to the carriage. There was a 120mm of similar vintage to the 149G

perhaps the drawing is meant to be a representation of the 120mm.

Regards,

Charlie

 

 Hi, Charlie!

I've found a scheme of 120/21 cupola with a gun. It seems to me this is completely different one.

And finally with a little help of my friends I've found the image of the italian gun, wich was the source of the Batchelor's drawings we discuss... This photo was published in polish book Artyleria ladowa 1871-1970 by Stephan Pataj of the year 1975/76.

But now I have new guess - what was a 350-mm heavy field mortar?



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We have the image of the italian 149-mm howitzer 149G (obice da 149G) on the drawings and photo!

And about a guess. IMHO it means 340-mm heavy mortar 340T, France, 1915.



-- Edited by Capitan Print on Saturday 22nd of March 2014 07:57:38 PM



-- Edited by Capitan Print on Saturday 22nd of March 2014 07:58:59 PM

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When I saw this artillery piece in the Schneider Catalogue 1917, I thought that the solution is a very rare Mortaio Schneider da 210 mm modello 1910, but later I noted some notable differences and now it seems that I've mistaken (although the shield and proportions are quite similar).

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-- Edited by ain92 on Tuesday 10th of June 2014 06:01:41 PM

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