When I have been working on a new model project, the DAIMLER MARIENWAGEN HALFTRACK, It came up a strange ancestor, brainchild of Mr. Otto Bremmer ; built before WW1 and accoeding to my references and a fuzzy photo I could pic up,( yet not could scan for uploading), sorry. This "BREMMERWAGEN" was an early artillery tractor, not to be confused with latest designs, MARIENWAGEWN I & II).- Does anyone heard about? Best regards, EDUARDO
Bremer initially had a very interesting prototype (of which I only have a very fuzzy picture where the most interesting part - the track - cannot be seen). Later he got into business with the War Ministry who supplied him with 2 commercial 3 ton lorries in order to produce a cross country vehicle. This was to become the infamous "Bremerwagen". - Are you looking for the latter?
That's the Bremer-Wagen. Not quite what Hugo Bremer had in mind, but all he could produce with the materials given to him.
Thank You very much dear Mad Zeppelin, for Your kind responses, is good to see our paths crossing again! Certainly I was delighted at the photo submited! Despite it is not the vehicule in the photo I am about to upload(just give me please a bit of time please, due to work comitemments I am a bit troublesome) what a fascinating image you share with us! Now I am quite sure that the vehicule I am looking for is what you have mentioned earlier "Bremer initially had a very interesting prototype (of which I only have a very fuzzy picture where the most interesting part - the track - cannot be seen). " this vehicule´s particular characteristic is that the trackwork has in the middle a sort of spocked wheel very similar in shap and dimension to... a horse´s cart one. I will try to upload the rare image sooner. Meanwhile, thank you again, also I included photos of what I think could be the running gear of the vehicule in the image you submitted. All the best, EDUARDO
Your pictures show (left) the Marienwagen-I-chassis, the first attempt by Daimler to improve the Bremer-Wagen (didn't work). At right is one of the further Daimler developments. Awaiting your upload. Your description doesn't ring a bell with me.
Hello Mad Zeppelin, I have the image in an excel document ready for being sent. (Could not upload to the forum because of any unknow fail of my PC.) So if you give me your e- mail I will send You the photo, and may be you can upload it to share with the comrades in the Forum and check what is that! BEST REGARDS, Eduardo
Thanks a million for the Bremer Tank 1915 Drawing Photo, I have loads of drawings, but I have never seen a photo. What can you tell us about this design. All the Best Tim R.
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Here's the drawing of the Benz-Bräuer Kraftprotze. Allegedly, some 50 of these vehicles became ready by the end of 1918, but none ever saw front line service. They were foreseen as tractors for field guns.
Concerning the Bremer-Tank: This was the test vehicle that Bremer had constructed on his own in 1914/15, until he ran out of materials. When he turned to the Prussian KM, they were not interested in his tank but wanted him to construct a cross-country transport. When Bremer - after some quarrels with KM bueraucrats - finally agreed, he was given two lorries. The results of this venture are known. What happened to the tank prototype, I do not know. Also, I've never seen another picture of this vehicle.
Dear gentleman, I am gratefull for all the interesting material You all have been so kind as to share. The really fascinating saga and plans deserve interest and I really expect some day to build a model of this beautifull and odd vehicule. Eduardo
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, I have loads of drawings, but I have never seen a photo. What can you tell us about this design.
