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CJ


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According to a post on the Axis History Forum German forces in East Africa had these artillery pieces amongst other which I am unfamiliar with:

 13 3.7 cm light guns, 

3 4.7 cm light guns, 

3 6 cm colonial guns,

2 old 4cm guns sent for the von Wissmantruppe

3 3,7 cm revolver guns and 

2 8,8 QF guns

does anyone have info on what models these were and possibly photos? 

Im guessing this photo from the German Colonial Uniforms website is the Revolvergun?

15th%20August%201916.%20German%20Pom%20Pom%20struck%20by%20a%20shell%20from%20HMS%20Vengeancemed.jpg

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CJ


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Hi Cj...these are probarbly mostly ex naval guns.....

3.7cm Hotchkiss revolver also built under licence by Krupp/Gruson..

http://home.kpnplanet.nl/~w.falck@kpnplanet.nl/mm/maritime/wespe/Hotchkiss-Synopsis-1.pdf

http://home.kpnplanet.nl/~w.falck@kpnplanet.nl/mm/maritime/wespe/Hotchkiss-Synopsis-2.pdf

You can also find a german manual here...

http://home.kpnplanet.nl/~w.falck@kpnplanet.nl/mm/maritime/wespe/wespeclass.html

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The 8.8cm may be the krupp 8.8 cm L/30 quick-firing gun on a improvised mount....

scroll down the page....

http://www.raleighcitymuseum.org/exhibits/Gun/

And here are the actual guns used in the campaign scroll down past the 10.5cm guns to find pics of the 8.8cm....

http://www.sacktrick.com/igu/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/koenigsberggun.htm

it would seem likely that at least some of the 13 3.7cm guns were also from the Koeningsburg....
 
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-- Edited by Ironsides at 21:08, 2008-12-19

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I have an example of a German 8,8cm S.K. L/30 in my collection. This is
the link:
 
http://lovettartillery.com/8.8cm_Schnellfeuer_Kanone_L_30.html

There is also a link form this page to information and images of the surviving 8,8cm S.K. L/30 off the SMS Königsberg. There were only two of this type in Colonial service.  Both had field modified carriages.

The German 9cm C/73 Kanone also has a 8,8cm bore diameter but is expressed up to 9cm. These were also in German Colonial service. This is the Link to the German 9cm C/73 in my collection:

http://lovettartillery.com/9cm._C_1873_Kanone.html

Ralph Lovett
http://lovettartillery.com/

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Thanks for the respnse mr lovett,

Ive visited yor site before and would like to complement you. Particularly on the c 73 page, the best on the web. What Ive always wondered, being a hobby historian with general interest and not just for artillery, is what gun did the c 73 replace? What gun did the Prussians use in 1870/1871? 

Thanks in advance, sorry Im getting side tracked

CJ


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Hi this link might be relevant for at least some of the 37mm guns...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_1_pounder_pom-pom#cite_note-Hogg.26Thurston1972Page22-1

The 47mm may be similar to this gun....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_3_pounder_Hotchkiss

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CJ Thanks for the kind words.  The breechloaders I am somewhat familiar with in Prussian 1870-71 service are the C/1861, C/1864 and the C/1864/67.  There are a few of these types in the US.  I have attached drawings from Die Gezogenen Feldgeschuesse C/61,C/64 und C/64/67 von W. Witte .  I have also put in a few photos from a friends collection of his C/64.
By the way, I am not sure if these types were in Colonial service or not.

Ralph Lovett

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thanks, 

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Hi Cj I came across this post by TimR, the info is extensive although no pics..

German Artillery of World War 1 in South Africia by Major Hall

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