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Peter T


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Finally some more progress shots.

After having done the camo scheme to my scratchbuilt model of A7V /540 I am at least at the stage of applying all the details by brush.





And as you can see here, I've started to add some chipped paint to the most rusty parts of the tank.

 

There is a long way to go...hmm


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Looks great, Peter!

I like how you have painted the 'ghost' of previous markings between the black and white crosses on the sides; that must have been difficult indeed.

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I agree with philthydirtyanimal. The ghost markings look very realistic. Great job indeed!

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Thanks Phil and Christoph!

Now, some steps further:

As I'm planning to depict this tank as having recently seen some action, I have added some bullet marks to the side. But there are a lot more to come, if you compare the two photos. It is a really a hard work for me to capture the heavy worn look exactly.

 

The weathering process will keep going. Any comments and suggestions for improvement are welcome.

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Great painting! Real great work!


Please take my apologies if I may cause some trouble, but .... the moment I saw the picture, something crossed my mind.

Having a look at my books regarding A7Vs:

1. No. 540 was armoured with Krupp armor - this was the armor which side-armor was cut into 5 pieces.
2. The picture you have attached shows No. 503.

Sorry? Am I wrong?

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Thanks Chris

The fate of 540 has been discussed some times ago in the landships forum and in the french forum "histoirémilitaria14-18".

Here are the links:

histoirémilitaria14-18

http://lagrandeguerre.cultureforum.net/les-avant-apres-f50/identification-d-un-lieu-photographie-t7302.htm

A7V tank 540

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=63528&p=3&topicID=11123971

 

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Just to make sure that I got this right:

the informations in these books below are incorrect?

Max Hundleby and Rainer Strasheim: The German A7V and the captured Mark IV tanks of Wolrd War 1
Komitee Nachbau Sturmpanzerwagen A7V: Sturmpanzerwagen a7V (The rebuilt comitee)Wolfgang Schneider and Rainer Strasheim: German tanks in WW1

They all say: 540 had the Krupp armor which was cut into 5 pieces and that 540 was untill the end of war within the tank detachments. (The least means: it was captured by the French in December 1918 in Wiesbaden)
They also show pictures of early 540 which shows clearly the 5-pieces-armor and the name "Heiland"
They also show the picture you have attached and name it as No 503.

To be honest: as far as I understood the discussion you have linked, it was never discussed if the picture shows the right A7V (540) or probably 503.

I am a little bit confused.

Can anyone help?

Chris

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Hello Chris


I believe, all started with "The German A7V Tank" of Hundleby and Strasheim. The authors tried for the first time to identify each A7V and gave the number 503 to this particular tank. In the meanwhile everyone copied that and it became a fact (i.e. Komitee Nachbau Sturmpanzerwagen A7V).

Later Strasheim and Hundleby discovered a new photo, which proved, that 503 was actually 540. According to Rainer Strasheim, this new fact had been published in 2003 in the Tankette-Magazine.

Hope this helps.
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That means: 503s name was Heiland and had a 5-piece-armor?

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Chris

Rainer Strasheim gave me that information in 2005. 540 was tank No 5 of ATD 1, abandoned north of Cambray in October 1918.

He wrote: "Als Konsequenz war der im Buch als 540 angesprochene Wagen nunmehr 503 (5fach geteilte Seitenpanzerung)"

That means that 503 was the multi-sided tank "Heiland", to be seen in Max Hundleby and Rainer Strasheims book (i.e. pages 65 and 224).


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Just to make it a little more complicated:

"Heiland" is 543, ex-"Bulle" and ex-"(Prinz) Adalbert"

503 was "Faust", then "(Kronprinz?) Wilhelm", then ?

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@Robert: Did you post Rainer Strasheims complete answer somewhere here in this forum? I am very interested in it. As I am German, the original answer would also be helpful.

@mad zeppelin: That means Strasheims & Hundlebys list can be scrapped, doesn't it? Does anyone have an updated list (names, numbers and which armor was used) now? Were 540 and 503 the only tanks which were confound?


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