Hello everyone, my name is mike from New Jersey, over the past five years or so I have contributed several photos to the landships site. Yes Rob from the UK, I was the one who submitted the photos of the 60 pounder "somewhere in the US". Anyway I recently created a site called www.doughboysofnyc.com - its primarily a photo essay of the Doughboy statues in and around NYC. There is also a little history about the NYC based divisions. HOWEVER there are also 2 pages on the site I call Guns of the Great War. In looking for some additional content I collected photos that I have taken of WW1 artillery pieces that I have seen in the US and put them on this site. I am also calling out to any people on this site who have taken photos of US based guns to send them to me if you like and I will put them on my site and give you photo credit. I think youll find the site interesting. In the next several days I am also going to be adding a seperate page of photos and a little history of NYC division collectibles that I have. I think you will find the site interesting - thanks.
My family was born in Paterson, NJ. Even though we moved to Florida in1953, my brother, cousins and I still played "army" by the mine werfers (quietly, though) at Laurel Grove where our are grandparents, aunts and uncles are interred, and more enthusiastically at the obelisk on Mcbride ( we lived a few blocks up on Nagel St. and then on Carlisle Ave ) up until about 1959. We walked all over,back then.
I haven't been able to find a picture of the oblisk except in a satellite map photo of Paterson. Holland's submarine is displayed across the Passaic and looks like an iron airship, but that's another story.
Our reason for playing at the obelisk was the cannon that was there. I haven't seen a picture of it nor its type anywhere on the net The last time I saw it was 50 years ago, but I seem to remember a plaque on the gun that mentioned a presentation from Belgium. I have a Brownie of it and one of my brother ( age 8 at the time ) for scale. I'll locate it and try to scan it to you.
In Greenville, SC, the Army had, among other installations, an artillery training camp. Alongside the VFW Hall are three cannon: one field-piece, a WWII AA battery and a Watervliet 6 inch howitzer of 1908 used by the Army up until WWII. By request they weren't sent with the AEF for supply purposes. I haven't seen a picture of this type on the net either.. I tried to post this to LS a while back but had trouble and then work and life, blah, blah, blah came along.
Sorry if I rambled, but tried to give background and context to this topic. I hope this is of interest and value to some of you, because I am really thankful for this forum and the info you all have shared.
Hey G.W. thanks for the post. I love hearing stories like this. I grew up in West Paterson and live on top of Garret Mtn. which overlooks Paterson. Technically the condo complex I live in up there is part of Paterson. I live about a 2 minute drive from the Paterson obelisk. I know Nagel street. The first time I spotted the Laurel Grove guns was around 1984. I was in high school and a number of guys in high school from Totowa had a place adjacent to Laurel Grove where they would go to smoke and drink and one day I tagged along with two guys and we short cutted through the area. One of the guns lost its wheel but they are not in bad shape. They have probably been there for at least 60 years! Yes I would like to see that picture. The gun that was once located at the Paterson obelisk is obviously long gone. I have a post card from the 1940's of the obelisk however the gun is not in the graphic. I know the Paterson submarine, as far back as the 70's it was located on the grouns of JFK high school. For years now it has been inside in the Paterson musueum which is righ down from the falls. I will be updating my doughboy site very soon. I recently acquired uniforms of the 4 main NYC based divisions and will be creating a seperate page. I will also be adding more gun photos. If you like repond to my email on my doughboy site and I will send you high resolution large format photos of the Paterson obelisk. Where is the gun that you photographed located? Only one of the photos when I click on them pops up into a large format pic. Talk to you later - Mike
The only pic I can find presently. I still have to find the side view. The location was to the right and front of the obelisk, which you can see between the cannon mouth and Jeff's head. I'll keep looking. Found this Smithsonian pic, also.
Thanks for the info Ralph, will update on my next reedit. George great shots, thanks for posting them. If you can find the other shot I would like to see it. Very soon I will be creating a 3rd Guns of the Great War page which will feature another 10 or so WW1 US based artillery pieces. Ive also recently added a page featuring WW1 uniforms from the NYC divisions. - www.doughboysofnyc.com
You will see on the Google Map integrated in the websitethat there are numerous WW1 guns in Canada and USA (where I currently live), and I am obviously missing a lot of them :
Of course, some of the nicest collections are in Aberdeen and in our Friend Ralph Lovett collection, but I find new ones regurarly.
I would be very interested in having your permission to post your pictures, of course with a link to your website and a mention of your name (you may even add a logo on the pictures if you want), and in exchange, I will let you use mines.
Hi Bernard, yes Ive seen your sites before, very impressive. Yes you can use my pictures as long as you give my site mention. It is not the primary focus of my site to feature artillery but I find its a great way to added related content. Plus I like the thrill of driving down a road and finding one one of these pieces and taking a photo and also I know that it will help drive traffic to my site. I just added a third page last night featuring several guns from Aberdeen. I would suggest to anyone on this site with an interest in finding North American guns to read the the bottom of the first page of my site - www.doughboysofnyc.com - which mentions a guy named Dick Pope. He doesnt have a computer but can be reached via mail. He has been building a database of all WW1 guns in the US and Canada and a four year old list I have contains over 1200 guns ! Many are US manufactured of the era however there are tons of Europe manufactured guns. I sent him pics of several I knew of that he did not have on his list so obviously it is not comprehensive. I will be adding another page later this spring. I have a trip or two planned where I know I will be passing by some other guns located on long island NY and up in New England. Many of the pics I have I only picked the best one but I usually take shots from several angles. If you like send me your email and Ill mail them to you, a little at a time. If you pull the shrunken down shots from my page I dont know how theyll look expanded. Its better to have the high resolution originals. So let me know.
If there is anyone else out there with photos of US/Canda guns send them to me or Bernard or Landships or all of us so they can be posted and shared. There must be others out there who have photos!