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Anzac1915


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Hi All,

Since reading the Osprey Book on German Panzers 1914 -18 by Steven J Zaloga I have become fascinated with the images of the A7V Flakpanzer, so, as we have all no doubt done from time to time, I started to scratch build this beauty using a Tauro kit as a starter.  I started in January and have been working on it when I can (mostly evenings) and it is finally starting to take shape.  Not much of the Tauro kit was used (mainly running gear and some of the parts from the drivers cupola) - all I can say is thank heavens for brass rod and Evergreen plastic!!

I have attached some photo's and all comments - constructive or otherwise - are welcome.  I have started on the timber sides and will be building it as shown in the picture with the sides down.  Still a way to go though.

Now for the big question.confuse.gif


The photo attached of the actual tank show what I believe to be a base of medium/field gray (lighter colour) but I cannot decide on where the other 2 colours have been used.
 
Mr Zaloga suggests ochre and red brown were predominately the colours of the day but I would like some suggestions as to which of these you would say that the main alternate colour is.  This is mainly the large circles all over the sides of the centre cupola and the timber sides - they appear to be the same colour, however there is a third colour on the ammo boxes (and poss black lines to differentiate the colours) and if you look closely there is a third colour of circles on the face of the hood section over the top of the cupola.

Any suggestions would be appreciated (sorry for the long post)

Enjoy the photo's

Greg

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  You can see the three tones on the ammo boxes and the same three tones on the blind above the cupola.
 

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elbavaro


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Congratulations!

I am very deep impressed. Good work! Looking forward to see it finished.

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Peter T


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A very cool subject and a very nice scratch build! It looks very good...and comparing your reference photo to the model, I think you have done also great job in replicating all the details, IE. on the driver's platform an the guns. Just one little remark: On my pictures of the A7V-Geländewagen the support of the return rollers was much shorter and consisted of three sections, one over each bogie (marked yellow in the picture).

The question of the accurate colours never will reach a final conclusion and the colour question of your specific subject is indeed fare more difficult to be answered yet.

In trying to come to the real colours as near as possible I made a trip to the Army Museum in Bruxelles some years ago to examine surviving examples. There the surviving military hardware shows four different hues: Deep green; a reddish red brown; mustard yellow and a hue like dark orchre.

Although it is an impossible undertaking to tell shades of colours from Black-and-White photographs, I am quite sure, that we can exclude the bright yellow hue.

Therefore one possibility for me would be: Green and red brown blotches on top of (a greenish) "Feldgrau".

All the best  and happy modelling

Peter T.



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Anzac1915


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Hi Peter,

I see what you mean re the support rollers - I guess 1 more re-working can't hurt - can it? no biggrin

I have posted a paint question on your 1/25 post

Regards

Greg





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Very good work, Greg !   I'm impressed because you've actually "taken the bull by the horns"  and built the project virtually from scratch references.   Hats off to a fellow scratcher !

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Anzac1915 {Greg}

    Absolutely fabulous Job. I have been digging up information for years on this thing; I am overjoyed to see that it struck an interest in someone else as well. I look forward to seeing the finished article.

Question, what was used to build the twins. {Artillery}

All the Best

Tim R.



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Nice work indeed! Looking forward to seeing more.

Ron

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Anzac1915


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Hi all,

Apologies for not gettig back sooner with replies.  I have been working long hours to try to finish for the Queensland Model Hobby Expo (QMHE) which was held over last weekend (22/23 August).  Whilst I did not get the base completed I did manage to at least present something credible.  (IMHO).

Feedback at the show was positive and I now have a couple of months to do some touch-up work before more local shows in the New Year around Sydney, canberra and Melbourne (and contemplate whether I re-work the suspension as indicated by Peter T!!)

Tim: The guns started out as spare barrels from a DML T34/76 and I added evergreen tube to bulk out the body of the barrel, the pedestal was brass tube with plasticard extras and Grandtline rivetts.  The main gears were plasticard with the teeth cut from a radio controlled car gear set and glued on and the smaller gears at the front were the thumb rollers of a disposable cigarette lighter.  The main tube under the barrel is also brass.

Many thanks to those who have supplied advise and photo's over the past couple of months and also to Andrew Judson for his wonderful figure (WW2 tank mechanic with a WW1 hornet head)

Hope you enjoy the photo's and comments (constructive or otherwise are welcome)

Regards

Greg



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elbavaro


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Well .... what else to say than .... great work!

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Hi Greg, Excellent model you have produced. I have been giving some thought to the problem of colour choice and have found that by using Google Picasa you can change the tone of a colour picture to sepia or black & white, and then by using samples of your chosen paints get a pretty close match. I hope this makes sense and is of some use.
Paul

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Hi Greg

This is indeed a great model. I really like you camo interpretation on that ugly looking vehicle.
What are your next plans? The Grabenbagger would be a real challenge wink

All the best!
Peter


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What a GREAT job!
Best regards, Edsmile



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