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Sturm78


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Hi all,

I found on Ebay this image showing a KuK field artillery piece. Could someone identify the model?

Thanks in advance. Sturm78

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28juni14


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8cm M.5 Feldkanone;  the standard divisional gun.

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Thank you very much for your answer, 28juni14

I found on Ebay this another image and I need help to Id. the gun:

Regards Sturm78



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This is a posed image of a 7,7cm FK96n/A ;  the primary divisional kanone of the Imperial Army during WK1.

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Thank you very much, 28juni14

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Hi all,

Another gun unknown for me. Can anybody help me to Id. it?

Regards Sturm78

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Though the pic is a bit small,  it appears to be a 7cm Gebrigshaubitz.

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Though the photo is a bit small,  it appears to be a 7cm M9 Gebrigshaubitz.

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Hi 28juni14,

Thank you for your last answer and sorry for delay. 
I did not know this mountain gun model. Krupp or Rheinmetall model?

In the "German Artillery of WW1" book of Herbert Jäger is not mentioned this 7cm M1909 mountain gun model

I need your help again to Id. correctly this guns:
I think they are a 21cm M10 barrel trailer and a 7.7cm Fk16  behind a Büssing tractor but I'm not sure. Can you confirm this?

Thanks in advance. Sturm78

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...the mountain howitzer is a Skoda piece,  not German.

I would agree with your analysis of the last pic;  though the FK16 appears damaged.

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Hi all,

I need your help to Id. this rare german AA gun:
Have anyone any information?


Regards Sturm78.

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This is a commercial photo of Krupp's entry in the anti-balloon (Ballonabwehr,  or BAK for short)  that held some interest at the turn of the century.    They jproduced two versions;   7,7cm L/27 BAK ( ;short recouperator),  and 7,7cm L/29 (  long recouperator ).     Two examples of each existed,  but neither was adopted by the Imperial Army.   However,  after the capture of the Flander's coast  the Germans noticed the increased annoyance of aggresive Brit aircraft ,  and began creating additional BAK batteries to combat them.    The aformentioned Krupp guns were pressed into service ,  and formed a batterie to serve with the 4 Armee in Flanders.

They were credited with bringing down 2 aircraft,  and damaging a few others as I recall.

I'm not aware of any foriegn sales before the war,  nor do I  know the guns eventual fate;  lthough it is likely they were replaced as wear and tear took it's toll.

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Hi 28juni14; Thank you very much for yor help. As usual, great information!!smile

Only a question more about this weapon: is the gun of my image the L27 or L29 version?

Another artillery piece unknown to me:
I asked about this gun on AXH forum but nobody could tell me anything. See http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=111267&start=345 

Almost certainly is of Russian origin. Only barrel trailer.

Image from "Tyagatshi" book of Jochen Vollert.


Regards Sturm78.



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;.... the L/29 had a recouperator housing that actually extended 5 inches or so beyound the muzzle.   These guns were early design subjects of long recoil that were seperate test beds for the study of returning to battery while at extreme elevations; a science unto itself ( the Brit 13pdr AA is an example of trial, and failure in this area).

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Hi 28juni14. Thank you for your answer.

Have you any idea about my last image of russian barrel trailer?

Regards Sturm78.

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Hello,

I have the same photograph of the russian gun and an other with the carriage hauled by Holt Tractor.I think the gun is a russian 152 mm coast gun modified for road moving.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.

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Thank you, ALVF. It is a possibility. The barrel trailer seems a fairly modern design for the WW1.

Regards Sturm78

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Hi all,

I found this image and I need your help to Id the gun correctly.
I think in two possibilities: 15cm SK L40 or 15cm SK L45. 
Although perhaps not German....confuse

Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78



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Hello,

It is not a german Gun.The breech is a Canet model "à tir rapide".
It is a russian coast gun captured on russian coast (Gulf of Riga or other islands).
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.

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Than you very much, ALVF.

At least I hope to have hit with the caliber: 15cm biggrinbiggrin

Regards Sturm78

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Hi all,

Can anyone help me with this gun?

Regards Sturm78

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Hi all,

I found this photo on Ebay. I think it might be a 7.7cm BaK L29, according to the explanation given by 28juni14 on October 14th in this thread.
Can anyone confirm this?


On the other hand, nobody can help me with the gun of my last photo? cry


Regards Sturm78

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Hallo Sturm78!

I failed to see your post of the fortress artillerie piece.

The photo you posted illustrates the KuK 8cm M5 Minimalschartenkanone  (   Kasemattkanone )     This piece was of exceptional design for it's day.   When accepted by the KuK Festungsartillerie,  it was the first purpose designed casement piece fitted with long recoil, and rigid carriage. ( previous designs relied on either an anchored bore ring,  or carriage recoil buffers,... as the caibre increased. )

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Thank you very much for your information 28juni14!smile
Can you confirm the identification of 7.7cm L29 BaK?

Regards Sturm78.


-- Edited by Sturm78 on Wednesday 18th of November 2009 11:05:03 AM

-- Edited by Sturm78 on Wednesday 18th of November 2009 11:05:47 AM

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.... correct,... it is one of the L/29 kanone.

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Hi all,


Not exactly a piece of artillery but... Can anyone identify this little mine-thrower?

Image form Ebay

Regards Sturm78



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Nobody?? cry

Well, An AA gun for Id.? Can anyone help me?

Image from Ebay.
Thanks in advance. Sturm78

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Nobody can help me??cry

 

Can anybody identify this heavy field gun? I think Rh 15cm K16 but I am not sure

Image from Ebay
Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78

 



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Brennan


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It is a fortress mount not a Naval Mount.

I am intrigued buy the breech as it is rectangular - suggesting it is a purchase or capture perhaps as the vast bulk of French guns have cylindrical breeches? Posibly Russian??

At a guess I would suggest that its not bigger than 75mm or 3" approximately or 4" / 105mm max.confuse

-- Edited by Brennan on Tuesday 26th of January 2010 05:16:25 AM

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Its the standard German Genatenwefer but without a bomb inplace & off its dragging carriage?

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I think it is the 10.5cm / 4.1" naval gun (German) in an AA mounting???

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Sturm78 wrote:

Hi all,


Not exactly a piece of artillery but... Can anyone identify this little mine-thrower?

Image form Ebay

Regards Sturm78



Looks like the Austro-Hungarian Granatenwerfer M16 - used also by the German Army.

http://www.landships.freeservers.com/granatenwerfer16_walkaround.htm

Regards,

Charlie

 



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Hi Brennan and CharlieC 

Well,
So, my photo posted on December 28th: Granatwerfer M16
The photo posted on January 11th: 10.5cm AA naval gun. Model ???

And for my photo posted January 25th: I think Rh 15cm K16 but I am not sure

Regards Sturm78 



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Well, more guns for Id.:

Can anyone help me?

Regards Sturm78.

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The 3rd picture is the standard 8cm Austrian Field Gun.

The 1st 2 pictures look like Krupp 75mm commercial guns - see this link

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=33782114


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Indeed these are off-the-shelf Krupp items.   The gun to the right is well identified elsewhere on the forum,  however the speicman to the left is rarely seen in photographs.    This is the Rumanian upgrade of their initial modern field gun procurement(  9cm C73/88 ) from Krupp.   Though still without a carraige recoil,  the gun has been given a prominant splinter shield. (  I have only 3 other pics of this piece in my collection. )   Yes,  both pics show "booty" likely after the Rumanian 2nd Army's failed October Flmânda Offensive .   Interestingly,  note the KuK soldiers looking on.

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The C73/88 is an interesting gun - I would have thought a gun shield wasn't very useful on a gun with no recoil/recuperator since the crew has got to back away from the gun when it's fired so protection from the muzzle blast and splinters is a bit moot except when the gun is being loaded.

There are lots of the Krupp commercial guns in Australia - they were sold in large numbers to the Turks and many were captured in Palestine in 1918 by the Australian Light Horse.
Some of the survivors in Queensland are recorded at www.ammsbrisbane.com/documentation.htm.

Regards,

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.... splinter shields were primarily intend to render some crew protection against counter-battery ,  and small arms fire.   Shell splinters were quite effective in slicing up gunners.  ( In today's media the term "shrapnel" is incorrectly used in discribing  injuries from splinters. )

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Thank you very much for your answers, Brennan and 28juni14,

In summary:

Images 1 and 2: the gun to the right 75mm Krupp M1903 Romanian gun and the gun with large shield 9cm Krupp C73/88 romanian gun modernized
   
Image 3: 8cm M.05 or M.05-08 austro-hungarian gun

Is this correct?

28juni14, Can you identify the guns of my two previous images? The AA gun and the large field gun

Regards Sturm78

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For images 1,2 & 3 yes your summary is correct.

On the AA gun, I know I suggested the Naval 4.1" but it also might be the
M1917 8.8cm K-Flak mentioned in a reccent post, though the only picture I have seen of this weapon is poor quality & hard copy?


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