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I have been working on a spreadsheet that shows every available WWI figure (braille scale), whether metal, resin or plastic. It started as an inventory of the figures I have, but then I added a 'wish list' section and so it has evolved into a list of everything 'out there'. or at least, all those that I know about. I wonder if you gentlemen would check this brief list of the manufacturers, and add to it if you can. The figures page on this (Landships) site could then be updated. I will post the spreadsheet here, when I have added all the links into it.

Plastic:

HaT, Emhar, Airfix, LW/Evolution, Strelets, Dark Dream Studio, Revell, Caesar, Waterloo 1815, (and maybe Pegasus one of these days).

Resin:

MGM, Solfig (or are they metal?), Fine Scale Factory (are they still in business?), Nikolai, RetroTracks, MIR (why bother?).

Metal:

Tumbling Dice, B&B Miniatures, IT Miniatures, Figures Armour Artillery USA, Skytrex, Minifigs, W^D Models.

I don't know if that is a complete list. I'm sure there must be others. Please add to it, and please make a comment on quality, or who is your favourite etc.

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Only one I can add is Eduard with their styrene 1/72 aircrew figures.

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Metal Minis.. Irregular Miniatures a fairly extensive range with what looks like some some good  belgian and french troops resonable quality.....

 http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/

Spencer smith also have a number of small ranges...... Jacklex 20mm old fashioned wargames quality,  Tradition 25mm on a par with the best......

http://www.spencersmithminiatures.co.uk/jacklex/worldwarone.html

http://www.spencersmithminiatures.co.uk/jacklex/russojap.html

http://www.spencersmithminiatures.co.uk/tradition/wwi.html

Reviresco.....wargames figures, quality of sculpting toylike...

http://www.tin-soldier.com/sg/british.htm

Brittania miniatures.... games quality

http://www.britanniainkerman.com/brit/frontpage/siteintroindex.htm

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Try this mob, old scout. They seem to be still in business.

http://www.northstarfigures.com/shop/greatwarminiatures/index.html

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James H wrote:

Try this mob, old scout. They seem to be still in business.

http://www.northstarfigures.com/shop/greatwarminiatures/index.html




 They Are 28mm though



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Thank you, gentles. I am adding them in to the spreadsheet.

Can anyone show any photos so we can get an idea of the quality? The plastics are on plastic soldier review but none of the metals are.

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Try Gunthwaite Miniatures for metal figures suitable for RN, RNAS and 'Colonial' personnel. They have a nicely illustrated website and can be obtained from Halifax Modellers World. Perhaps not to W^D standards, but close. Here's a link : http://www.gunthwaite.co.uk/index.htm
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Thanks jellytwig. Those are added in. I've never heard of them; have you used them side by side with the W^D figures?

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I haven't had the opportunity to try the Gunthwaite figures yet, but I'm sure my wife deserves a shopping trip to Halifax in the near future !

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OK Gents, here's what I have so far. Feel free to test it out and let me know what you think (its in Microsoft Excel 2003).

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Here is a pdf version of the xls file. Unfortunately it is a wee bit wonky (to say the least). Enjoy!

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Nice work mate - the HaT British heavy weapons should be out any moment now according to the website which look quite good, even if it looks like the Stokes Mortar has the wind up and has gone weak at the knees!

http://hat.com/Othr8/Nuno63P.html

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Thanks. I took a couple of decisions;

I only included what is released. Who knows when Pegasus or Caesar will release their French, or Strelets release their British and Honved cavalry, etc?

I left out figures from 'nearby' conflicts ('nearby' in time, rather than distance). I have some of those figures, such as Basmachi, Franco-Prussian War French and Bengal Lancers, but how useful they are is a personal choice.

They can easily be included.

And I wasn't sure how to display the metal and resin figures. Consequently the plastics are listed individually whereas the metals and resins aren't.

Any suggestions anyone?

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Just had a very nice note from PSR. And it seems I have forgotten Czech Master Kits in the resin section for their set of von Richtofen's Flying Circus.

Is anyone finding this useful?


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According to Mike Creek on the Strelets site, the Pegasus French are 'nearly ready'.

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Thanks, James. Does that mean 'the people' would like to see a 'future releases' section in the document? Or does the one solitary response mean nobody cares? smile

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Yes please carry on we should all be grateful that you are doing this service for all of us. As to future releases with my W^D service cap on that an excellent idea. I have plans for future releases but it would be nice for me not to duplicate what someone else is doing. Also it would be nice to have some idea what you lot would like seeing released in the future.
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I suppose it depends on how much maintenance you feel like doing - updating, etc - but a Forthcoming Attractions section would round it off nicely. Probably of particular interest to the casual visitor or newcomer.

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I have far too much spare time.

Here is the list again, with plastic 'forthcoming attractions' added. Can someone/anyone download it and check it works, please.



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updates made. thanks for your support.

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Hi Phil  good work on the list, I have found another manufacturer Garrison Figures of Greenwood & Ball ltd which are still actually in production and producing a few Rose Miniatures  WW1 figures, their ancient greeks were some the earliest metal figures I bought at "Under Two Flags" near bond street tube I think back in the 70s..

Heres the link only a few at the moment

http://www.garrisonminiatures.com/index.asp

http://www.garrisonminiatures.com/catalogue/index.asp?rName=World+War+1&rBrand=%20Rose%20Miniatures

According to Vintage 20mil there was also a range done by greenwood & ball 1870-1917 a rather odd dating but i cant see these on the lists...... this is a list of what they did......maybe the moulds masters dont exist anymore ?....

1870-1917 Period
Infantry
Boer War Highlander, firing
Boer War Highlander, advancing
Boer War Highlander, officer
Boer War British Foot, marching
Boer War British Foot, on guard
Boer War British Foot, officer
Boer War, City of London Imperial Volunteers, on guard
Boer War, British dismounted cavalry (sun helmet), walking rifle at trail
1900 British Line, spiked helmet, advancing
1900 British Line, spiked helmet, firing
1900 British Line, forage cap, marching
1900 Royal Marine, Broderick cap, advancing
1900 Royal Marine, officer
1900 British Foot Guard, full dress, at ease
1900 British Foot Guard, full dress, officer
1900 British Rifle Brigade, firing
1900 British Rifle Brigade, officer
1870-1900 Prussian, Grenadier Guardsman, mitre hat, at attention
1900 German Jaeger, marching
1900 German Jaeger, walking rifle at trail
1900 German Jaeger, dress uniform, at ease
1900 German Line, picklehaube, firing
1900 German Line, picklehaube, marching
1900 German Line, picklehaube, advancing
1900 German Line, picklehaube, officer
1900 French Line, advancing
1900 French Line, marching
1900 French Line, firing
1900 French Line, officer
1900 French Foreign Legion, drummer
1900 French Foreign Legion, marching
1900 French Foreign Legion, walking rifle at trail
1900 French Foreign Legion, at ease
1914 British Foot, peaked hat, marching
1914 British Foot, peaked hat, standing
1914 British Foot, peaked hat, firing
1914 British Foot, peaked hat, officer
1914 French Infantry, advancing
1914 French Infantry, firing
1914 French Infantry, throwing grenade
1917 German Infantry (pot helmet), advancing
1917 German Infantry (pot helmet), firing
1917 British Infantry (tin helmet), advancing
1917 British Infantry (tin helmet), firing
1917 British Infantry (tin helmet), throwing grenade
1890 Indian Infantry, marching
1890 Indian Infantry, officer
British Artilleryman, pillbox hat, standing
1870-1914 French Zouave, firing
1870-1914 French Zouave, attacking
1900 Italian Bersaglieri, fast walk, rifle at trail
1900 Italian Mountain Gunner, standing
Cavalry
Boer War British Lancer (sun helmet)
Boer War British Mounted Infantry
Boer War British Hussar
Boer, firing from saddle
Boer, rifle on thigh
Boer, holding rifle
1890 German Dragoon, holding rifle
1890 Bavarian Lancer
1890 German Officer
1890 German Uhlan
1900 French Chasseur, holding carbine
1900 British Life Guard
1900 British Dragoon
1900 British Hussar
1900 British Lancer
1900 Scots Grey
1900 Scots Grey, officer
1900 British Guards officer
1900 German Mounted Jaeger (MG Coy)
1914 British cavalry
1914 British officer
1915 Australian Light Horse
1915 Australian Light Horse, officer
Indian Lancer
Indian Officer
British Officer, pillbox hat
British Cavalry Trooper, pillbox hat
British Hussar Officer, full dress
British Hussar Trooper, full dress
Horses
Standing
Walking
Trotting
Galloping
Mule
Artillery
1870-1900 Breech loading cannon
(This model had a metal body and plastic wheels)

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Thanks, ironsides. I'll add Rose miniatures in the metal section. Do you know much about them? Are they 20mm, 25mm, true 20mm (ie too small), true 25mm (ie just about right)? We need someone to buy one of everything and photograph them against a scale background. I nominate James!

Shame the 1870 to 1917 aren't available. (That must be something to do with The Franco Prussian War and the October Revolution?!)

And I need to correct the entry for Le Lancier Bleu; they are metal heads not resin heads.

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Unfortunatly nothing but they also do some zulu war figures and they dont look too bad a little toylike perhaps..... as to size their sold as 20mmconfuse I would class them as old style wargame quality....

I was thinking it might be worth asking for a few samples and do a review...


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I would feel very cheeky indeed asking for samples! I'm not a reviewer as I am so ineloquent and inarticulate.

But I have made a mini comparison and attached it here. (any tips on photography would be welcomed!). The Preiser and W^D Models figures do not come with bases, so I have attached them to some Games Workshop bases. The GW bases are rather thick, much more so than the one on the Emhar figure. But I think it still shows that these figures compare very well and could be mixed in with nothing jarring (in my opinion as an amateur reviewer).

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Many thanks, Mr. Animal. If I might so opine, the 'Status' column in the 'To Be Released' section is somewhat pessimistic in tone.

I don't recognise the Preiser figure. Which set does it come from?

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Thanks, Mr H.

The Preiser bloke is not a British figure, like the other two. I think Preiser make no British figures. He is from a set called Pilots, Ground Crew & Passengers 1925. I didn't put Preiser in the list because they make no WWI figures, nor do they appear to have plans to. But their figures are widely acclaimed as being well proportioned so I wanted to show a comparison with a metal figure (W^D Models) and a 'mainstream' plastic (Emhar).

Comment on the spreadsheet tells me that it can be downloaded and read, which is something I didn't know. (I'm not entirely sure how much of this gets read and by how many people. I hope Airfix, Revell, Emhar/Imex and HaT are reading it; but I doubt it).

I suppose I was feeling a little pessimistic when I wrote that column. In my paltry defence  I ask, how long have the various French sets been listed and shown no progress? They are now the stuff of legend along with the Wooslam Bird.

However, I have to make a couple of changes, so I will act on your sage advice and make it slightly optimistic. Thank you again.



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Hi PDA heres a link for the Preiser site which suprised me no end, as for years it had been a page under construction, has complete catalogue listings and pics which are extensive, 1/72 scale is largely limited to WW2..... they also did a very nice big box set of 1900 Victorian style figures in 1/87 many would work as WW1 civilians.....

http://www.figuren.de/

Does it constitute WW1 if you use the figures as crew and passengers in a 1920s converted WW1 Handley Page 0/400 bomber diorama?......

http://www.figuren.de/showpage.php?SiteID=29&lang=1

As far as photos are concerned I use a 5 year old Canon powershot digital camara it has full manual and auto settings including macro, normally I use it on auto+macro setting for small stuff.. usually something comes thats ok... I bought it because I needed a camera that would do full manual settings for my work.....

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"Does it constitute WW1 if you use the figures as crew and passengers in a 1920s converted WW1 Handley Page 0/400 bomber diorama?......"

To answer your question, in the style of a politician, "Yes and no." smile

Thanks for the link. I am glad that Preiser have bucked up their customer relations ideas. And I am happy that so much of the English language is German, so that I can 'read' about 10% of their site! Too bad it isn't gibberish as I am fluent in that.

A lot of Preiser's figures can be used, with some 'paint conversions', for WWI. But I'm still not convinced they should be on a list of WWI figures. If they go on the list, the Red Box and Orion figures should also go on.

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Hi PDA heres the Victorians.......best found on ebay....

http://shop.ebay.de/i.html?_nkw=preiser+1900&_arm=1&_armi=Figuren&_armm=94&_dmd=1&_ruu=http://modellbau.shop.ebay.de/Figuren-/114303/i.html%3F_nkw%3Dpreiser%2B1900%26_arr%3D1%26_dmd%3D1%26_sop%3D1&_sop=1&_rdc=1

Ok just found this, click on link below and download the catalogue PDF "Miniaturfiguren H0. Maßstab 1:87. In historischer Kleidung." here you'll find the following for 1900? in parade uniform.....

http://www.figuren.de/showpage.php?SiteID=29&lang=1

12185 Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kaiser Franz Joseph suite, 6 painted figures

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Latest version of the list. Adjusted for optimism.

Preiser sets 12185 (Kaiser Bill and his mates) and 12186 (Prussians Marching) are interesting sets, but are in HO scale, which, if memory serves, is 1:87. Personally, I think that is on the small side. Maybe Kaiser Bill was a small fella (although his cousin (?) the Tsar, was a giant), and so the figures would work, but everyone can make their own minds up, I guess, now that Ironsides has so kindly drawn everyone's attention to these sets. There's a picture of the Kaiser Bill set attached.

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There is a rumour just starting that Zvezda will be making WWI Russians and Germans in 2010.

Good news if it proves to be true.

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Thanks for the Preiser set pic,  UncleanCreature.  Other than the Kaizer & his frau, and a Hussar,  the remaining figures appear to be Austro Hungarian Cavalry with Franz Joseph.   Excellent figures;  it's a pitty they are in the mini scale.

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Great reference sheet for us newcomers to braille scale. Thanks for the effort!


A question, though ... is 25mm what is generally acceptable to use with 1/72 scale armor?

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Hi Oscar Zulu, scale is a slight problem in that many manufactures have their own ideas on it......

Plastic figures are usually produced in 1/87, 1/76 and 1/72....

Metal figures scales are 20mm, 25mm, larger scale are not compatible....

"20mm" is closer to 1/76 and generally considered compatible with 1/72..
"25mm" is generally larger then 1/72 but some figures may be compatible....

All I can suggest is buy a few samples and compare if your nor sure....

This blog may be usefull compares metal and plastic figures...

http://plasticpelisse.blogspot.com/

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28juni14, I searched through Preiser's range to see if they made Kaiser Bill in 1/32. It seems like something they would definitely be interested in doing, but the closest I could find were some excellent figures for the 7 Years War (1756?). Maybe you could write to them? Their figures are very good, but sadly nothing for The Great War in either of our preferred scales.

Oscar Zulu, thank you. You're welcome. Your question is a good one and very difficult to answer! It depends on two things, in my opinion; the 25mm figures and what you personally will accept as 'normal looking' (or 'good looking' or 'compatible').

Part of the question is down to scale. If you do the maths, 1/72 scale means a 72 inch (6 feet) tall man should be represented by a 1 inch plastic toy soldier. 1 inch is 25.4mm, so in theory 1/72 scale plastic soldiers should be the same size and proportions as 25mm metal figures. But clearly they are not!

Similar mathematics applies to the other small scales of 4mm to a foot (figures should be 24 mm tall) and 1/76 (figures should be 24 mm tall), so they should be compatible. However, scale does not seem to apply to metal figures, with the noticeable exception of W^D Models (which are true to scale at 4mm:foot). Citadel figures used to be called 25 mm, then they became 'heroic 25 mm', and now they are nominally 28 mm, but really they are quite large even for 28 mm. 'Traditional 25 mm' should be about the right size, but personally, I would try to buy ones that are skinny looking to match in with plastics, or, only use them with Strelets plastics (which are chunky).

A lot of people say 20mm metals are the right size to use with 1/72 plastics. According to the laws of physics this should not be true. But, as previously stated, manufacturers don't always stick to scale (something called 'scale creep').

All of which is not much help! So the ultimate answer is, 'whatever you think looks good together is right. No-one can argue with you about that. It is your money and your hard work that put it together.'

Something really useful would be if someone posted photos of metal, plastic and resin figures side by side and with 1/72 and 1/76 (and other braille scale) vehicle kits in the photo also.



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Thanks for the explanations, fellas. I swung by the LHS today and just picked up a couple of Mk:s with the intention of just picking up the Emhar 1/72 Mk IV Male, but they had an Airfix 1/76 Mk I that I just had to buy. I see from this thread that their may be some accuracy issues with it, but I'll work through them. I'll have to say, the Airfix looks very crisp compared to the Emhar ... but, maybe it's just the prettier plastic? biggrin

I had a look at some of their figures and came away very disappointed in the HaT figures and just the opposite in the Caeser Miniatures. Only problem is they don't make any Tommy figures yet as I have plans for a Cambrai dio with my Mk IV.

I'll keep looking through your spreadsheet to find what I'm looking for, though \m/

BTW, this site rules ... I've been looking for some folks with my passion for The Great War.

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Yep, that's about right, there are no good sets of Tommies (in my opinion). There is just the laughable old Airfix (HaT reissue) one:

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=542

or the nice, but limited (not many poses), Emhar one:

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=80

or the faceless HaT Canadians:

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1130

My preference is with the HaT Canadians, but it is a disappointing set from a manufacturer who normally turns out good quality work. (In my opinion.)

BTW the Airfix Mark I turns into a Mark II really easily, much easier than trying to make it into a Mark I. And the Mark II is much easier to paint!



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Hi...
You can allways use the Hät Canadians and  replace the heads, airfix 8th army may work size wise, I use the pin and glue method as this is easier to line things up...
otherwise its Emhar but as PDA ses the poses are limited.....

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I'll agree about their being no decent plastic Brits - the HaT British heavy weapons will no doubt be the best available

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Some good suggestions, but I'm going to need some Tommies that can follow behind my Mk IV after it smashes through the wire and prepares to deploy the fascine. I want to model it after pages 38-39 in the Osprey Campaign Cambrai 1917 "The Birth of Armored Warfare" manual.

The HaT Brit Heavy Weapons are mostly emplacements ... it's looking like best option thus far is going to be the Emhar Set 7201 British WW1 Infantry with Tank Crew--as limited as the poses are. I hate to have clones following the landship. Maybe it's time I learn to modify figures. That should be interesting at 1/72!

The Canadian infantry look like a nice set. How much difference between a 1/72 WWI Brit and Canadian? Noticeable?

Sorry for hijacking the thread, PDA.

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