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sandy1000


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These are further photos of the gun at Corrigin Western Australia. It does not appear to be in Bill Billett's book "War Trophies". Can anyone provide further information?

-- Edited by sandy1000 on Friday 1st of January 2010 08:24:08 AM

Photos by Gary Martin

-- Edited by sandy1000 on Friday 1st of January 2010 08:29:56 AM

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The usual gurus are probably still nursing the result of New Year's overindulgence so I'll have a punt.

It's a 75mm Krupp M.08 Mountain Gun. The point of a mountain gun is that it can be broken down into components and loaded on mules. The Krupp gun took 5 mule loads to move it. Mountain guns make a lot of sense for operations in difficult terrain like mountains (obviously) and jungles.

The Japanese licence-built this gun as the Type 41 Mountain Gun. A fair number of Type 41s were captured in New Guinea in WW2.

I guess the reason that this gun isn't in Billett's book is that very few were captured by Australian forces - the Corrigin gun may be the only survivor.

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Charlie


-- Edited by CharlieC on Friday 1st of January 2010 11:26:50 AM

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The breech position does not look like its at max recoil but the position of the barrel in the front view of the 1st post looks too short / far back for the Krupp Mountain Gun unless it was at full recoil??

It s definately Krupp, but the barrel length looks more like howitzer length in calibres.

I thought the Japanese M41 was based on the Krupp M04?

In either case ir should be in 75mm.

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CharlieC wrote:



The Japanese licence-built this gun as the Type 41 Mountain Gun. A fair number of Type 41s were captured in New Guinea in WW2.


-- Edited by CharlieC on Friday 1st of January 2010 11:26:50 AM



Hi CharlieC,
Do you have a photo of a type 41? Isn't there one at Charters Towers? Could you include a photo of it here for comparison?

 



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Too easy - I found a couple of images of a nicely restored Type 41 in London, Ontario - these images are Wikimedia Commons. The other two images are the Type 41 at the Charters Towers RSL (ident is not certain) and the Gold Coast War Museum at Mudgeereba.

I've been told by one of the AMMS members that there's another one at the museum at Meandara but I haven't got an image of that one yet.

Regards,

Charlie



-- Edited by CharlieC on Sunday 3rd of January 2010 02:18:35 AM

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Given the short barrel apparent in the Corrigin gun might it infact be a 70mm Krupp

The following is pulled from a post on forum.boinaslava.net - their international forum in English

Krupp built three different model of 70mm mountain gun:

7,0cm Gebirgskanone L/14 mit Rhorrücklauf M. 1902
Calibre : 70mm L/14
Weight of the barrel : 105 kg
Weight in action : 365 kg
Barrel lenght : 980 mm
Shell weight : 5 kg
Muzzle velocity : 275 m/s
Max. range : 3150 m
Elevation : + 15° / -10°
Traversing angle : 4°
Transport : 4 loads (84 kg/120 kg)
Mountain gun without shield

7,0cm Gebirgskanone L/14 M. 1903
Calibre : 70mm L/14.3
Weight of the barrel : 95 kg
Weight in action : 365 kg
Barrel lenght : 1 m
Shell weight : 5 kg
Muzzle velocity : 320 m/s
Max. range : 4450 m
Elevation : + 15° (+ 20°) / -10°
Traversing angle : 4°
Transport : 4 loads
Mountain gun without shield.

7,0cm halbautomatische Gebirgskanone L/15 M. 1907
Calibre : 70mm L/15
Weight of the barrel : 95 kg
Weight in action : 494 kg
Barrel lenght : 1.05 m
Shell weight : 5 kg / 5.3 kg
Muzzle velocity : 300 m/s
Max. range : 4870 m (with 5 kg shell) / 4960 kg (with 5.3 kg shell)
Elevation : + 24 / - 8°
Traversing angle : 4°
Mountain gun with shield.


With barrel lengths of only 1m  these may be a better fit for the Corrigin gun?

Will try & find some pics of the 70mm. However I do have an image (of a news paper photo & caption) of a Krupp 75mm Mountain Gun being evaluated by Serbia & the barrel is too long for the Corrigin gun.

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Hi added the link for the other thread on this gun...

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=33126714

any chance of any other pics ...

This may be the 75mm  L14 Mountain Gun M13? built by Krupp primarily for export....

see 75 VK L14 here no pic though....

http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Infantry_guns.htm


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-- Edited by Ironsides on Sunday 3rd of January 2010 11:49:07 PM

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Hi

I confirm this mountain gun is a German Krupp 75mm Gebirgskanone M13, with a short L/14 barrel compared to most of the other mountain gun

As a comparaison,

- the Krupp 7,5 M02 was L/19.2,
- the Krupp 7,5 M08mwas L/17,
- the Rheimetall 7,5 M14 was L/16,
- the Rheinmetall 7,5 M15 was L/17
- the Skoda 7,5 M15 was L/15

There is one similar gun preserved in the Fortress of Koningstein, Germany, shown in a picture of Hans Mehl's 'HeeresGeschutze aus 500 jahren - Feld und Festungsartillerie - Band 1' book.

Friendly,

Bernard

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