Landships II

James H · Legend

New A7V Book Update.

ergie · Sergeant

"On 104 pages this publication is illustrated with 134 photographs and 12
graphics plus 2 five-side 1/35 scale drawings based on recent new data"

Great War Truck · Brigadier

i will look forward to getting that. I see that it is book 1001 in the series of "World War One special". So what will be next i wonder.

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

Depends on the success of this book. If it sells well, the series will be continued. Next one ought to be about the assault units.

plastic fan · General

I will buy one for sure

Albert · Brigadier

At first I thought this will be the best book on A7V ever. But it looks like this book is not so complete as the Hundleby's & Strasheim's book from 1990, so that previous book is still also very worth having. 2010 book is more like an update to 1990 book. Plus, this book will not contain information on beutepanzers which�can be found�in the 1990 book.
But it's great that we will have this awaited update on A7V's. The book can be preordered on Tankograd site and on Ebay and should be available at the end of March.

James H · Legend

Albert wrote:

At first I thought this will be the best book on A7V ever. But it looks like this book is not so complete as the Hundleby's & Strasheim's book from 1990, so that previous book is still also very worth having. 2010 book is more like an update to 1990 book. Plus, this book will not contain information on beutepanzers which�can be found�in the 1990 book.
But it's great that we will have this awaited update on A7V's. The book can be preordered on Tankograd site and on Ebay and should be available at the end of March.

Agreed. It looks as if the book isn't the original with added information but�just with new stuff on the A7V, so the two will have to be read in conjunction. (The old one is going for about �120 on Ebay).

BTW, this book A New A7V Tank�that is on Ebay isn't the same one. It's about MH's replica that appeared at Bovington last year. See pic.

Bit of a problem wth Tankograd. They seem to have several methods of payment: one for Germany, another for Austria and Switzerland, and a third for everywhere else. They won't take payment by credit card online, only by fax or letter. However, there is a list of stockists here: http://www.tankograd.com/cms/website.php?id=/en/index/shop.htm�and this is their stockist in the UK: http://www.bookworldws.co.uk/catalog/

-- Edited by James H on Thursday 11th of March 2010 01:55:12 PM

Albert · Brigadier

James H wrote:
Agreed. It looks as if the book isn't the original with added information but�just with new stuff on the A7V, so the two will have to be read in conjunction. (The old one is going for about �120 on Ebay).

BTW, this book A New A7V Tank�that is on Ebay isn't the same one. It's about MH's replica that appeared at Bovington last year. See pic.

Bit of a problem wth Tankograd. They seem to have several methods of payment: one for Germany, another for Austria and Switzerland, and a third for everywhere else. They won't take payment by credit card online, only by fax or letter. However, there is a list of stockists here: http://www.tankograd.com/cms/website.php?id=/en/index/shop.htm�and this is their stockist in the UK: http://www.bookworldws.co.uk/catalog/

-- Edited by James H on Thursday 11th of March 2010 01:55:12 PM

Oh yes, I do know how expensive is Hundleby's and Strasheim's book from 1990 - I payed a lot of money for it, but�the book is�great and I don't regret it.

You are right, Hundleby's A New A7V Tank (which I already have) should not be confused with�upcoming Tankograd publication.

Pity that Tankograd doesn't accept PayPal, that's why I'll buy this book via eBay.

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mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

There's a first online review of the Tankograd "A7V - First of the Panzers" available at:

http://www.modelarmour.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=866:tankograd-sturmpanzer-a7v-first-of-the-panzers&catid=38:books&Itemid=60

Mark Hansen · Legend

There is one small fault in the drawings of the different roofs. The slits in the top of the drivers hatch should only have three rows, not four. The four slits were on the underside. There is photographic evidence for this on 506 and 542.

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

Hell, yes. - It would seem that the driver's hatch had only two layers, the outer six slots being positioned above the intervalls between the inner eight slots.
I can see it on 503 and 542. - To which picture of 506 are you referring?

Mark Hansen · Legend

The photo is, I think, a screen capture that was posted on this forum a while ago.

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

This one I must have missed; I only knew those showing the inside of 506's hatch. - The picture also shows very nicely the hole for the extendable flashlight. Thanks.

James H · Legend

From a look through the review, it seems that the new book can stand apart from the first one. I'll let you know when mine arrives.

H&S appear to have cleared up the Imperator matter - it seems to have started life as Cyclop.

I should imagine MH will be a bit miffed to find that he's got something wrong after all that work.

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

To quote Max: "Well, there always will be mistakes..."

Michel Boer · Brigadier

I got my copy yesterday at the Euromodelexpo in Heiden. I don't have the 1990 book, so I can't compare both books. Nevertheless, it's a good book and worth the 25 euro's. Apart from the general info, it presents a data sheet on each of the A7V's that were built. Most photo's come from the collections of Jochen Vollert, Hundleby & Strasheim and Mario Doherr,�a lot of which�were certainly not yet known when the 1990 book appeared. There's also some material on the �berlandwagen and the Hedi as well as on the replica's that were made in the 1930's, 90's�and last year.
It's a valuable addition to my modest book collection and certainly a great help in building the two Kora models I've got waiting for assembly.

Michel.

James H · Legend

Got my copy. Very impressive - lots of new info and photographs. The data sheets to which Michel refers give a history of the development, names,�and service record of each vehicle, and there's a list of engagements�(although in tiny print).

It deals with the A7V first and then points out that the �berlandwagen chassis was the common ancestor, which I think�might have been better done the the other way round, but that's only a minor quibble.

Interesting facts that emerge:

Imperator began life as Cyclop�and survived until 1919, though probably wasn't deployed by Freikorps.

There was a plan for�full armoured columns with recovery and support vehicles, but they never happened, for various reasons including the desperate shortage of petrol.

Very interestingly, it appears that Hedi and her twin were built as command/wireless vehicles (somewhat like the Schneider projects) and were fully formed at the Armistice, so probably armoured.

I didn't realise that 501 saw action as a female in March 1918 and didn't receive a 5.7cm until May.

The last section shows many pics of Max H's replica under construction.

All in all, a cracking book. The 1990 one is nice to have, but not essential with this new one available.

Albert · Brigadier

James H wrote:
Imperator began life as Cyclop�and survived until 1919, though probably wasn't deployed by Freikorps.

I didn't realise that 501 saw action as a female in March 1918 and didn't receive a 5.7cm until May.

All in all, a cracking book. The 1990 one is nice to have, but not essential with this new one available.

1. It's interesting, looked like Imperator had Kokampf markings and I guess everybody thought it was used by Freikorps.

2. The fact that 501 saw action as a female in March 1918�before receiving a gun was known long before this book appeared (I'm not sure but I guess it was written in Hundleby/Strasheim�1990 book and maybe even�in some older book).

3. I think 1990 book is still very worth having, actually if I had to choose one of them, I would choose the one that appeared 20 years ago! Why? Looks like it describes the operational story of A7V's much better + I think it's the only book in English that describes operational story of captured Mark IV tanks (2010 book does not deal with them at all).�1990 book has much more pages and text, 2010 book contains mainly photos and drawings. But 2010 book is a fantastic update to 1990 book. So�I think everyone seriously interested in A7V tanks should have both books, these are the best books on this topic in English (and in the world along with one or two�books in German).

I�already have 1990 book and I ordered 2010 book today, so I will be able to compare them better in a few days.

-- Edited by Albert on Friday 16th of April 2010 11:54:12 PM