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stephen brezinski

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More artilllery identification!
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The fourth gun down with the multi-color outlined camoflage.  It appears to be a 75-mm field gun.  Looks like an Erhardt but gun is mounted very low and shield is unusually tall?


http://tanxheaven.com/fedcol/canon/canon.htm


 


Unidentified Gun #5, the light gray gun with curved shield.  Lokks like a Nordfelt breach?


http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Arti/UFO/index.html


P. S.


Do you have anything on the M1902 75-mm Erhardt the USA used in WW1?


 


 



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Peter Kempf

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I have seen this one, in Brussels, and I will check in my pics to find the sign that was alongside the gun. I must admit, this one has me stumped!



Regarding the US Erhardt: I have some material, but not really enough for an article to post. For one thing: I lack pics of a surviving gun. Stephen, perhaps you can find one over there? Perhaps you feel up to writing a small piece on the Erhardt: it's a neglected gun, really.



All the best
/Peter K



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Matt Heil

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According to the "Light and Medium Field Artillery" book in the "WW2 Fact Files" series by Peter Chamberlain and Terry Gander, the first gun you mention looks an awful lot like any of a number of license-produced Krupp guns, most notably the Belgian "Canon de 75 mle TR" and Dutch Siderius guns. Still, nothing in the book looks exactly like it, so it's hard to say. And that second gun looks awfully French, doesn't it?
Also, the three artillery books in the "WW2 Fact Files" series (Heavy Artillery, and Infantry, Mountain and Airborne Guns, in addition to the one mentioned above), are all really useful texts, especially because they show quite a few WW1 guns in use during WW2, such as the British and French "75's", the German 10.5cm FH16, etc. Even though they're out of print, they're still easy to find at reasonable prices using bookfinder.com, or a similar used book source.
What I'd really like to know, though, is what that second gun in the tanxheaven series of photos is, the one with the narrow axle and dark gray scheme?
Anyway, I hope that helped!
Matt

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Peter Kempf

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The mystery is solved! And Stephen, yes, your initial hunch was correct!


The gun is a German 7.5cm M1913 Rheinmetall, i.e. a Erhardt if you like!


Erhardt is the name of the engineer who founded Rheinmetall. On one of my own photos of this gun, you can actually see the name Erhardt on the breech. (I will post it here as soon as I learned how to do it!)


/Peter K



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Stephen Brezinski

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A Rheinmetall gun of 1913.  I have never heard of this one, but the identification makes sence.  May I assume that it was used by the Germans in WW1 but in small numbers?  If it is 75-mm caliber like other Erhardt designs than it is an odd caliber for German guns of that time?  Being 1913, than it could have been sold and then in service with Begium or Netherlands? 


Thank you the help in identifying this one.  I am doing research on light field guns and your site Landships by far is the most helpfull.  My grand plans are to scratch build in 1/72 a Russian 76.2-mm M1902, an Italian M1911 Deport, and US M1902 Erhardt.  The Krupp is already covered by the Ostmodel's 75/27 gun which I like much.  [Are you aware that Matador Models makes a mediocre Italian 75/27 gun in white metal?]  I still need material on the French 75-mm M1906 and M1812 field guns.


Your thoughts on the other light gray field gun.  Looks very French!  I cannot locate anything in my Ian Hogg book that matches it.


 


Stephen


 


 


 


 



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Peter Kempf

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Yes, the calibre is odd, and the signs in the Museum can be interpreted as the DESIGN being German. So it is probably one of these Krupp designs/clones sold to different countries before the war.


Regarding the Matador model: would you care to do a mini-review?


/Peter K 



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