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I'm tidying up one or two of the descriptions on Critical Past. I could do with some help on this one.

IMO this is definitely not genuine footage but an extract from a feature film. The Tank seems to be MkV Supply with dummy guns fitted, and the troops have British 1908 webbing. The Germans are using a Vickers. I'm certain this is from a movie, but I don't recognise it. Anyone help?

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675066063_Mark-tank_World-War-I_Allied-soldiers_rolls-over-a-bunker_sandbagged-bunker

In these clips it is even more obviously a cinema film. Includes an armed MkV with an attempt at an anti-grenade roof.

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675066065_Mark-tank_World-War-I_German-gun-emplacement_tank-advances

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675066065_Mark-tank_World-War-I_German-gun-emplacement_tank-advances

-- Edited by James H on Tuesday 18th of January 2011 08:29:53 PM

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I can't get the second clip to load so can't comment on that but the first clip is a male Mk V with the guns removed and crudely plated over with a fake gun. The sponsons have a few differences from the supply sponsons. Don't know which movie it's from.

Later that same day...

Still can't see the video but, judging by the stills, it's the same tank. Definitely male sponsons that have had the original gun removed.


-- Edited by Mark Hansen on Tuesday 18th of January 2011 10:38:46 PM



-- Edited by Mark Hansen on Wednesday 19th of January 2011 11:47:35 AM

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Ah. The Adobe has crashed, apparently, but I'm sure all will be well in time. I also seem to have linked to the same clip twice. I'll try to put that right.

Mr. Erickson at Critical Past has very kindly replied and it would appear that he's revised some of the descriptions. He can't identify the clip from the info he's got at his end, but it's come from a U.S. source. However, everything seems to point to it being a British film, and it's a completely new one on me.

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Great stuff...thanks for that. It says at the side of the screen that it´s a Us Government film
US Government Archive number for this historic video is:
200.176 R4 DNS


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Sorry, this is the one I should have linked to:

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675066064

Two MkVs in this one, plus Brit and Ger troops. Clearly a cinema film, but which and by whom?




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Hi James intersting footage any chance do you think that this was fimed on an old battlefield or behind the lines rather then a film set.... I looked on IMDB and it lists 125 films for war 1918 some of which are documentaries as well as war films

http://akas.imdb.com/search/title?genres=war&sort=moviemeter,asc&year=1918,1918

Although its strikes me that the production might not be 1918 surely MKVs were still pretty new, perhaps these are war surplus bought as props for a film made a bit later...

war films drop off for 1919 which is not unexpected

http://akas.imdb.com/search/title?genres=war&sort=moviemeter,asc&year=1919,1919

how about this one as a contender our old pal "Old Bill"

http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0009923/

only 7 for 1920

http://akas.imdb.com/search/title?genres=war&sort=moviemeter,asc&year=1920,1920


ditto for 21, actually one is a western

http://akas.imdb.com/search/title?genres=war&sort=moviemeter,asc&year=1921,1921


Not much after that.. Ypres 1925 doesnt sound likely..

-- Edited by Ironsides on Wednesday 19th of January 2011 10:45:11 PM

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Blimey. Plenty to go at there.

The overacting of the soldier in the shell-hole looks pre-talkie, and talkies took off in about 1928. The machine-gun nest that the Tank screws into the ground is pretty obviously built for the film, but the battlefield might be a left-over from the War. The film quality is very good but quite achieveable in the 1920s. When were the last MkVs scrapped?

If this were an American film, you would expect it to feature American troops, Tanks, and so on. But all the gear is British.

It's a long time since I was completely stumped like this. We might have to seek the opinion of members of other forums.

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