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Out of the blue, Strelets have entered the arms race, promising:

# A001 - World War I Mk II Howitzer with British Crew
# A002 - World War I Mk VII Howitzer with American Crew
# A003 - World War I Mk VII Cannon with British Crew

Crew and master here

Not sure they've got the nomenclature right. This looks to me more like a 60pdr on a Mk II carriage, but I'm happy to be corrected. The crew look excellent, but I'm not sure about the rifles being slung during action.

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There are a number of clips on the Web from period film clips of crews servicing 60 pdr guns. I'd note that the only member of the crew usually wearing any headgear is the gun captain. No one carries weapons - not much point.

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Not a 60 pdr unfortunately, but a 6 inch gun Mk VII;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_6_inch_Mk_VII_naval_gun

The rifles being slung is rubbish, as Charlie says, there's no point - you also can't sling an SMLE in the way the figures have either. Hopefully the gun will be good

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There's also A004 Mk XIX Canon with British Crew

Hopefully, with a bit of deciphering, they mean the following;

# A001 - World War I Mk II Howitzer with British Crew = 8 inch Howitzer Mk II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_8_inch_Howitzer_Mk_I_%E2%80%93_V
# A002 - World War I Mk VII Howitzer with American Crew = 8 inch Howitzer Mk VII http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_8_inch_Howitzer_Mk_VI_%E2%80%93_VIII
# A003 - World War I Mk VII Cannon with British Crew = 6 inch Gun Mk VII ( as above )
# A004 - World War I Mk XIX Canon with British Crew = 6 inch Gun Mk XIX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_6_inch_Gun_Mk_XIX

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When I opened Mr H's link, the first thing I thought was that it was a 6" gun, not a howitzer. But I think there are a lot of people who believe "guns" are the small ones and "howitzers" are the big ones. That's OK. Who cares what they call them.

I will definitely be getting these when they come out. And, I don't care what the crew look like; it's another WW1 artillery kit in 1/72 (and HaT are releasing an excellent looking British artillery crew). And because it is plastic it will be reasonably priced, and therefore I won't mind cutting it, and working on it, if it needs any detailing or correcting.



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Thanks for the update.

"Excellent" is a daring comment when talking about Strelets sculpting, however I like the top row (except for the enormous rifle - pointless for long range artillery crew anyway). The field telephone operator and the guy in shirtsleeves look awful to me, and I hope they will correct the duo carrying the heavy shell so that they can be assembled as intented. I also suppose tying the puttees up to above the knee wasn't that common at all.

Anyway good to see more WW1 guns and crew coming.

For Strelets aficionados, here are some images of their French infantry wearing gasmasks:
http://bunkermeister.blogspot.com/2011/03/wwi-french-ii.html



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I like the look of them...and the gun...whatever caliber / type it is.
A new gun crew for my Emhar/Airfix guns...bit of snipping and converting. biggrin.gif

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A little harsh, Pat, if you don't mind my saying so. A lot of Strelets figures have a marionette air about them but I suppose we have to take the rough with the smooth. The belt buckle on some of these is curious - it seems to be circular, but I understood it was square - and the straps at the back crossed over, whereas these chaps seem to have some sort of O-ring in the middle of their backs. One or two puttees do seem to be a little high on the leg. The rifles, though, are wrong, probably even for Horse Artillery.

On the subject of the 6-inch gun, I was assuming it was this, from Ian Hogg's book, which he describes as a 60-pounder on a Mk III Carriage. Is he wrong?

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Hi James, that is a 60 pdr, but none saw service during WW1, despite Ian Hogg devoting a lot of time and space to it. I'm certain it's the 6 inch gun Mk VII though, as seen on these images;

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6inch_BL_gun_Lappohja_1.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6inchMkVIIGunTowedByHoltTractorTronesWood1917.jpeg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6_inch_Mk_VII_field_gun_NLS_74547830.jpg

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I believe the 60-pdr that did see service in WW1 was the one with prominent recuperators above the barrel:

http://svsm.org/gallery/127mm_60pdr_mkI_model1916


Maybe the one in Mr H's last posting is the Mark II, which is the WW2 version, I think, with the recuperator under the barrel.


However, none of Strelets' newly proposed guns appear to be 60pdr.

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Well it may be the case that strelets dont know what they have, if they can pull it off though hopefully it will be something useable.....


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Ta, Rob. I've not read that section of Hogg for quite a while, but I do remember thinking it wasn't very clear. I put it down to my dwindling faculties. However, it is rather hard to follow. H shows two completely different guns that he describes as 60 pounders, one with the recuperators on top of the barrel and one with the recoil below. They both have the slightly flared muzzle, which the 6-inch doesn't.

Artillery not my strong suit.

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James H wrote:

A little harsh, Pat




I was. Would love to be proven wrong. However I found most Strelets sets I bought deserved the beating they got in reviews (which many Red Box sets don't, btw).



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They now have posted more crew masters and and 8" MkVII howitzer:

http://www.strelets-r.com/SetsArms/Set002/Master.html



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Nice! Very excited about these

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If you go on the pages for the 6 inch cannon and the 8 inch howitzer mk 2 you can see the masters for each gun kit - and very nice they look too!

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Not just masters but looks like the finished kit, or roughs, for two of the kits, both look good, may need work on the barrel ( could just be how its been put together though so just a simple alignment issue) but the wheels have a nice effect

http://www.strelets-r.com/SetsArms/Set001/Figure.html - 8 inch Mk VII Gun

http://www.strelets-r.com/SetsArms/Set001/Figure.html - 8 inch Mk II Howitzer

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All set for an Autumn 2012 release

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Oooh. And Strelets's website has undergone a major makeover.



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Some of the instruction sheets are online now too - interestingly the outer of the wheels with the traction-engine style grips/grooves (?) is separate and appears to wrap around, perhaps it's rubber?

Anyway, hopefully we'll find out soon enough as a post on the Strelets forum regarding Autumn 2012 releases sets;

"Dear Martin,

new sets are in London, will start distribution shortly.
Please be advised accordingly.

Best regards,

Strelets"

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Flip! They're available, just posted an order from this site and too late to change, hopefully still in stock at the end of the month....

http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/strelets-inch-howitzer-with-early-british-crew-p-43860.html

http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/strelets-inch-cannon-with-british-crew-a001-p-43859.html

Very reasonably priced too


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