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Does anyone know of a set of scale drawings for this machine ?

I know that there was a model constructed by someone in France, alas, I don't speak (or write) French - (a fact that I really should have taken into consideration before visitng there a few years back !) I have saved off the in-progress shots of his model, but to do it myself I need a scale, something to start from....

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

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David Scorer 



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Hubert Cance published scale drawings of all the early built and not-built British proto-tanks on a French website some years ago (to my eye it looks as though he's based them very closely on Dick Harley's drawings in Tankette published yonks ago). I've attached the tranch-crosser ones, you'll have to excuse the digital watermark. Annoyingly there are no dimensions on the drawings. However, the broad bridging-girders carried either side in front of the large rear wheels are exactly 15-feet long (according to David Fletcher and Dick Harley's article in Tankette Vol 15 No 2).



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Just found an ancient thread where we discussed his drawings, including a link to the website where they were ('were' being the operative tense as it's no longer there):
http://landships.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=14824593&page=1&sort=newestFirst



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Thanks Roger, I did read / hear something about his drawings... Seeing as how I have a few of the magazines he contributes too, then perhaps it's just my failing memory playing tricks... either way... MANY MANY thanks for posting the scans... I will see what I can do to work out a scale.... I love this digital age (even if it doesn't love me !)

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David Scorer



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Good luck! BTW, if you're planning to build the projected armoured version as well (the drawing on the right), then see if someone can scan and post Dick Harley's drawings from Tankette Vol 15 No 2, because he also drew a longitudinal cross-section and an overhead view. I'd do it myself but I can't currently as my computer's gone weird and refuses to recognise my scanner, no matter how many times I reinstall the software and download stuff for it (and it's not the scanner, because I've tried another one too with the same result)! I think you're not the only person this digital age doesn't love...



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I went digging in archive.org for the vanished pages - although the drawings don't seem to have been archived the list of drawings said they were in 1/48 scale.

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Charlie



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G'day Charlie, Thanks for that, I know, I know..I should have asked you in the first place right ! See you Saturday.

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David Scorer



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CharlieC wrote:

 

I went digging in archive.org for the vanished pages - although the drawings don't seem to have been archived the list of drawings said they were in 1/48 scale.

Regards,

Charlie

The problem there is that the quoted scale only applies to the drawings as printed in the magazine they originally appeared in, it's no help with online digital files - how many dots-per-inch do you view them onscreen to be the right scale? What screen resolution do you set your monitor? How many dots-per-inch do you print them out to be the correct size as hard-copies - 300dpi, 600dpi? There are so many factors when viewing and printing digital files that without any measurements on the drawing, it's impossible to determine any dimensions or scale - that's why when I draw scale plans, I include a 'ruler':

http://www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/todd_flyeleph1.htm



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I don't think it's quite that bad - the page in archive.org:

"Voici une série de plans au 1/48e complémentaires de l'article sur les premiers chars anglais, publié dans Batailles & Blindés n°17"

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Here is a set of complementary plans in 1/48th of the article on the first British tanks, published in Battles & Armor No. 17

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Charlie

 



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Unfortunately, it is that bad, my point being that being given a scale is of no use when considering the online versions of the plans when there is no other information given (e.g. 'If you wish to print at X-scale, set your printer to Y-dpi'), it is only of any use if you are sat there with a copy of the actual magazine in your hands. Now, David doesn't have a copy of the magazine (otherwise he wouldn't have posted his request in the first place), therefore it doesn't matter what scale the drawings were printed originally when he only has access to the versions published online for the extensive reasons I gave above.



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Sorry for getting late on this one. After my requests I did get very good scale drawings of the Foster and the Trench crosser. They were articles in the Tankette by David Fletcher and Dick Harley. The scale is 4mm=1 foot,which as you know is W^D's chosen scale. Ian Armstrong has done a superb job (as usual) with the masters for the Foster Daimler and I am hoping he can do the Trench Crosser as well.

The plans are very well detailed. Unfortunatley I have noticed in scanning plans they come through at the other end out of scale.Is there any other way of getting them to you,post ????



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Dave,

 

There is a post on Armorama regarding a scratchbuilt 'non-armored' trench digger and this in turn leads to another link which is a SBS build on that machine (use the English link after the pics as the French one doesn't seem to load)

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=91639

HTH

Greg



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