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Just came across this news item, am I the only one it missed?

The outcome is a little disturbing!

http://www.buchanobserver.co.uk/news/local-headlines/german_field_gun_discovered_at_bottom_of_crichie_quarry_1_1878889

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-15003303



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Hard for an Australian to understand the local attitude to a war trophy - but then our armies were not organised on such regional lines as others and, taking that into account together with the resulting cohesion, terrible losses most close from individual units and lingering resentments old and new, it seems to make much more sense. At the end of the the day the veterans had more say in it than "the Laird" and who is to argue with that?

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Did those dowsers ever actually see the gun or were they just sensing with their willow wands and steel rods, and assuming the gun was in  the first cavity in the quarry waste tip that they hit? I couldn't quite get a clear conclusion from the programme, certainly the visuals.

 

 

 

 



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Haven't heard much of dowsing in a long time.  It's a testament to the human spirit (and to optimism in particular) that it survives still.

Dowsers usually work on the unseen, that's the whole point of it - they have to know what they're looking for, in general terms (iron, flowing water, etc.).  My Dad was a part-time water dowser (one of several in my boyhood area) - I'm sure he would have tried his hand at other things but must have decided, early on, that water was his thing (that was important enough in a dry/arid country). He was, briefly, a gold prospector during the Great Depression so, fair to say, he was no good with gold (never heard of anyone who was).

Never knew a "cavity" dowser but I'm sure that's well within the range of claimed abilities, which seem to be limited only by imagination.  My boyhood recollection of it would say that usually a buried object would have to be in close contact with the earth - so sensing the cavity rather than the object in this case is consistent with that. 

Oddly enough confidence or belief has nothing to do with it - Dad trained a mate of mine once (for water), intensely skeptical to start with, 20 minutes later he was a convert for life, convinced he had the "power" based on unmistakable reaction of the "divining rod".  Tried iron/steel rods, wire fork and forked sticks (from some local gum tree), I forget which worked best for him - usually there is a sharp difference, partly individual, perhaps changing with what is being divined. 

Needless to say I was useless at it.  And I'm not a believer - though many without the "talent" are, and will/would happily invest much labour putting down wells at the spots indicated by any dowser of repute.  Or, it seems, excavate for a "lost" war trophy gun.



-- Edited by Rectalgia on Monday 14th of November 2011 05:26:07 AM

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