Landships II

Hi Ad,

as there are plenty of helpful gentlemen, and at least one lady too on this forum let us know some more about your project!

regards, Kieffer

plastikk wrote:

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Attempts to reach builders
REPLICA OF POLISH FT 17.
If i find contact i send you info...or Amos

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That would be great if you can, many thanks.

plastikk wrote:

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Here is site http://pancerni.com.pl/
and e-mail :pancerni.torun.@gmail.com
This is the builder of FT 17.
Unfortunatly site only in polish...

BTW - they make too one of Polish AC from interwar period - Wz.34/III and info from last hour - they want to make Austin-Putilov.

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Last year I was thinking about a FT17 as a project and wound up on Youtube, a guy had built a not very good full size replica. The good part of the film was his drive train and controls, if you can find it there might be some useful information there.

I'm a long time welder /prototype fabricator, I would love to watch the progress of your project. I'de be happy to answer fabrication questions.

Jim

I googled B.N.P.(Bibliothèque Nationale de Paris) and got different addresses and a link to a bank, a bit confused. I thought about contacting Renault to see if they have an archive but unless you want to buy a new car its a bit difficult to enquire if they have. I thought about contacting the museums in France such as Saumur but they are run by the military and not privatley run,  like the museum in Koblenz in Germany (who i believe has such drawings). They all have funny ways of contacting them and seem un-aproachable. I think it would help greatly if you are a resident in that country being able to understand the language and proceedure of these establishments, maybe Fab52 could help out or a German member on the forum. I contacted Bovington and i have had no problem getting technical drawing from them for other things (you do have to pay for them, not a problem for me, well worth the money but they are subjected to copy right, meaning if you buy them they are for your eyes only, this applies to most archives of museums but its finding who has them and are willing to sell the information), unfortunately not the FT-17 tank. I may have to scale up a 35th scale model to get the sizes and check with them with an original at Bovington in the long run, but drawings would be much better.

Some one must have them and be available.

-- Edited by BC312 on Sunday 8th of January 2012 12:46:49 PM

If I good remember, other factories, not only Renault one, built the FT17 because the number of tanks was too elevated to be producted by only one factory !

I think there were GIROD, BERLIET (maybe SCHNEIDER?) . I know there is BERLIET Foundation(FONDATION BERLIET) in the town of Lyon . They've got different WWI lorries, they could own archives !You could find them on the Net !

I'll try to get informations about RENAULT Archives but can't promiss a success !

 

You have also S.H.A.T. in VINCENNES (Army Land Historical Service) but most of the time to have information you need to go there to get documents and it's not sure they got FT17 size plans !

Fab52 wrote:

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http://img44.xooimage.com/views/a/5/f/plan-ft17-235a109.jpg/

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 Nothing seems to come up using this link.

I have sent in a request form to the Berliet Archives, fingers crossed for a reply. 

BC312 wrote:

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Fab52 wrote:

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http://img44.xooimage.com/views/a/5/f/plan-ft17-235a109.jpg/

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 Nothing seems to come up using this link.

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 Works fine for me - leads to zoomed view http://img44.xooimage.com/files/a/5/f/plan-ft17-235a109.jpg - does that one work?

On the other hand

CharlieC wrote:

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There are some detailed drawings in the FT manual at: http://po2260.perso.sfr.fr/FT17/Manuel%20du%20FT/MANUEL-FT17-v0.htm.

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 Gives me an "erreur 404" -  "Cette page est introuvable."

After trying different mail contacts , I got this information : It's Renault Classic who's responsable of all Renault Factories Archives ! Boss' e-mail is: hugues.portron@renault.com ; or archives chief : luc.byleveld@renault.com .
Good luck for your investigations and give me news about results !

CharlieC wrote:

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The website seems to be fairly unstable - try going to http://po2260.perso.sfr.fr/

- left menu contains an item "Char RENAULT FT17" this produces a menu in the right frame which has the item "Le Manuel du Renault FT-17...."

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 Charlie, that does work for me, many thanks.  The website seems to be burdened with what are virtually hijacks (to one of those beaut "marketing" sites) which is probably what is causing difficulties with some of their links.  But the above gets me through.

Remember people - Ctrl-F4 will dismiss an unwanted browser screen (the "active document") without clicking on anything since clicking on unwanted screens is, in general, a habit to be best avoided.

... Steve

Yeah, I will have to look at Adblock, seems "it's time". I have redirection barred on Firefox but that only prevents the routine redirections I want and allows the advertising ones I don't. This is the first instance I am aware of where the advertising has actually (or probably) prevented me from getting to the actual target. "There ought to be a law ..." (or site owners should be more aware of the effects of that handy extra revenue stream) but since there's not and they aren't, Adblock is the way to go, it seems.

Thanks once more, I hadn't thought of that solution.

Steve

After contacting Renault museum of Boulogne Billancourt, there are no scale plans in their factories archives.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111622390261244298126/RenaultFTDrawingsInfoEtc?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPqzyPa0uMHAIA&feat=directlink
Doesn't seem to do anything. Topic on rivets is good.

Thanks for that. I wonder where the picture was taken of the track plates in the barn.

I, took these pictures at Fort Seclin, as well as the picture of the track links. This is a nice privately owned museum in a fort. They were rebuilding a FT17. the owner asked me to remove some pictures because they didn't want to show all that they have as Work in Progress. The museum is worth a visit. The dutch Army museum has a Nice FT17. They restored this a couple of years ago and might have actual drawings. Museum Overloon in The Netrlands have a FT17 as well. Large archive. Maybe drawings available.