Landships II

Date: Apr 8, 2012

trench model details query

Dasser · Private

Hi Paul - the fag ends are a good idea and would be very easy to model. �I hadn't thought of the problem with rats and food waste - I guess you're right as the last thing you would want to do is encourage them. �Here are some photos of the work so far, though there will be some fake muddied water added before final painting:

ww1 reserve trench duckboard frames

and another with the duckboards added ..

ww1 reserve trench duckboards

hopefully it should look ok when worn and weathered a little :)

-- Edited by Dasser on Friday 13th of April 2012 08:51:41 AM

Paul Bonnett · Hero

Hi Darren,
Given the social acceptance towards smoking and the amount seen in photo's I would think there would be large amounts of "fag ends" and empty packets. Maybe the odd glove or such like. biscuits from the rations etc, but having said that, the troops would have made a point of keeping it clean to keep down vermin and smells etc and to aid in the flow of rain water.
HTH
Paul

geod-LA · Sergeant

I'm not convinced that fag ends would be appropriate. In 1:35 scale, a millimetre of cigarette would be 35mm of full-size cigarette, representing two or three draws remaining for the dedicated smoker. Also, even a small amount of water and dirt would quickly degrade, spread and cover the paper and tobacco - no filter tips in those days.

Having said that, I'm afraid I have nothing constructive to offer except that empty (or occasionally full) charger clips might find their way down there.

LincolnTanker · Commander in Chief

Here's a couple of searches that bring up some interesting Trench info.

Hope they help Darren.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=876&q=wwi+trench+diagram&gbv=2&oq=wwi+trenc&aq=2&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.1.2.0l10.2171l9154l0l16794l11l11l0l4l0l0l232l1005l0j6j1l7l0.frgbld.#hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=wwi+trench+photos&oq=wwi+trench+photos&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0.8585l12860l0l13181l13l13l0l5l5l2l291l1618l0j5j3l8l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=2c3033e581511765&biw=1280&bih=876

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https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=876&q=wwi+trench+diagram&gbv=2&oq=wwi+trenc&aq=2&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.1.2.0l10.2171l9154l0l16794l11l11l0l4l0l0l232l1005l0j6j1l7l0.frgbld.#hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=wwi+trench+diagram&oq=wwi+trench+&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.1.1.0l10.74502l75238l2l77904l6l6l0l5l5l0l140l140l0j1l1l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=2c3033e581511765&biw=1280&bih=876

Dasser · Private

Many thanks - some great picture references there and the diagrams are spot on too.

It looks like the order of the day was mud, mud and simply mud!

Rectalgia · Legend

Dasser wrote:
It looks like the order of the day was mud, mud and simply mud!

Very nearly - not sure if you would want to incorporate the reality revealed by AP Herbert's celebrated doggerel commemorating General Shute's inspection of the Naval Division's trenches.� Refer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Shute.

Dasser · Private

Brilliant :) sums up the lions leading donkeys argument. I bet the 'orrible sod was glad we had them at Gallipoli though otherwise it could have been even worse than it was.

Tankcommander · Colonel

Hi Dasser or Darren,

In my garden I have a sort of "duckboards", every year I clean it under, and this is what I found (sometimes): Coins, paper, parts of eating garment (fork, knive, spoon), rests of broken bottle/cups, leafes (=the stuff that is hanging on trees), death worms, toys (parts of them), keys, all I didn't found rest of the year :), I think in trenches it must have be the same. I agree with geod-LA, cigarettes are very little to make in 1/35 (even coins are too small and they sink in the mud/water)

DJ

Dasser · Private

Cheers tankcommander - nice to have a first hand account. Guess it's a measure of how extremely sad I am that I'm jealous you have your own duckboards :)