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Dear colleagues,

Would anyone identify this odd vehicules from a vintage argentinian armed forces parade?

The original newsreel (!) in the site "militariarg.com", an excellent site devoted to history of armed forces of my homeland, mostly.

Thank you in advance,

Best regards



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EDUARDO MAMORETTI wrote:

Dear colleagues,

Would anyone identify this odd vehicules from a vintage argentinian armed forces parade?

The original newsreel (!) in the site "militariarg.com", an excellent site devoted to history of armed forces of my homeland, mostly.

Thank you in advance,

Best regards



-- Edited by EDUARDO MAMORETTI on Wednesday 23rd of May 2012 05:10:35 PM



-- Edited by EDUARDO MAMORETTI on Wednesday 23rd of May 2012 05:11:03 PM


 Many thanks for the quik response to you all. In the site militariarg.com,  after a carefull observation the only thing that comes to mind is indeed the french origin. By the ´20s ( the time of the parade depicted in the newsreel), some Kegresse armored halftrack have been sold to Uruguay, our neighbour country, for being use by the Uruguayan Fuerzas de seguridad, in fact there is a remainder example still as monument in a public park somewhere in Uruguay. Attached  is now  a Citroen kergersse m 1924 I found by googling, the bodywork & engine grille plus running gear are very close,but the wheeled vehicules remains a mistery. May be they are "commercial voitourees..."

Added also some images all from the very source militariarg.com

Regards



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The first three look alike or very similar, and all have a tall, short, steeply sloped nose without a front radiator. It's guesswork, but I think I've seen something similar on a vehicle advertised years ago in a classic car magazine; Renault would be my first guess, certainly something French (Panhard also comes to mind). I'll have a look around.
Date-wise I think mid-1920s is likely for the design, although the tyres suggest the parade is 1930s?
I have no idea about the last pic.

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First two look like Russian BA Chassis, and the other two I would say are of French origin.

THE OLD LANCER

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I'd say the last is definitely French in origin. The suspension unit is of Kegresse design with continuous rubber tracks.

Gwyn

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EDUARDO MAMORETTI wrote:
EDUARDO MAMORETTI wrote:

Dear colleagues,

Would anyone identify this odd vehicules from a vintage argentinian armed forces parade?

The original newsreel (!) in the site "militariarg.com", an excellent site devoted to history of armed forces of my homeland, mostly.

Thank you in advance,

Best regards



-- Edited by EDUARDO MAMORETTI on Wednesday 23rd of May 2012 05:10:35 PM



-- Edited by EDUARDO MAMORETTI on Wednesday 23rd of May 2012 05:11:03 PM


 Many thanks for the quik response to you all. In the site militariarg.com,  after a carefull observation the only thing that comes to mind is indeed the french origin. By the ´20s ( the time of the parade depicted in the newsreel), some Kegresse armored halftrack have been sold to Uruguay, our neighbour country, for being use by the Uruguayan Fuerzas de seguridad, in fact there is a remainder example still as monument in a public park somewhere in Uruguay. Attached  is now  a Citroen kergersse m 1924 I found by googling, the bodywork & engine grille plus running gear are very close,but the wheeled vehicules remains a mistery. May be they are "commercial voitourees..."

Added also some images all from the very source militariarg.com

Regards



-- Edited by EDUARDO MAMORETTI on Wednesday 23rd of May 2012 09:51:52 PM

Dear friends, just find by googling,regards



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Those are interesting pictures Eduardo - the last three are definitely Renaults, and might be what pics 2 and 3 show in your original post.

I don't know if these were special conversions or if it was a standard design Renault produced; the steeply-sloped nose looks like that of the Renault NN (you can find it on en.wikipedia.org), but the badge on the front is rounder than the example shown, more like that used on the KJ and KZ - perhaps it changed during production of the NN.

Wikipedia says that the NN was available as a truck, not just as a car, so perhaps these six-wheelers are modified NN trucks?

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Dear friend, attached you will find some images of NN renault, I agree with you on your theory.

 Bonus, Krupp 1898-100 24 cm coastal argentinian artillery, vintage naval base Punta Alta now open to the public.(those for Roger Todd)

Regards, Eduardosmile



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Thatose are really cool photos, Eduardo, thanks! I'd not checked this thread before for some reason.

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Dear Roger

I suggest you to google "baterias de punta alta"; "baterias Puerto Belgrano", concerning to the seacost krupps, my late father who was a marine infantry while his early years  and was the first to tell me the story, which includes not only WW 1 vintage, but also  WW2 88mm guns and Scheinwerfewers (night spotting proyectors),Consolidated Catalinas... and more.

Knowing on your taste for naval affairs, I am sure you will be interested. You will find ome pics of the construction there, if any translation neccesary just let me know.

And dont forget to check militariarg.com also for air-land forces

Regards

Edsmile



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