I am looking for information and photos of the Schneider Brillie No15 Model 1909 Armoured Truck. I know there was three designs, and the were bought by Spain, I also know there history with the Spanish Army and use during the Riff War. But my information is limited on this version. Any help would be very much appreciated.
Hello Guys I am looking for information and photos of the Schneider Brillie No15 Model 1909 Armoured Truck. I know there was three designs, and the were bought by Spain, I also know there history with the Spanish Army and use during the Riff War. But my information is limited on this version. Any help would be very much appreciated. All the Best Tim R
Thanks Robert, But I am looking for ther first version, The picture shows the third version. I appreciate you trying to help. All the best Tim R.
What little info I have suggests that this was the first one, the second was as shown in the drawing you enclosed and that there are no drawings or photos at all of the third model.
In paging through my copy of "les camions de la victoire 1914-1918" I find two photographs of the civilian bus, but nothing of an armoured version. I had always thought this richly bound book, with more than 600 photographs was the last word on French motor transport...,hummm ...
Actually I made a mistake on the early part of this thread, your version (in the Picture) is the 2nd version 1914, my drawing is the 1st version 1909 and I have posted a drawing of the 3rd version of 1915. I will try and type of some information on them this weekend.
This is getting confusing. These photos are all shown in the old Tank website http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/spain/spain.html and if you right click and look at the file names on that website for each one those you've attached they are dated 1909, the one I've included is shown as 1911 and there is a reference to the 3rd version being much later. The accompaning text is as follows;
This armored truck was the first AFV built and employed by the Spanish Army. The first one was purchased in 1910, being sent two years later to the Moroccan war theater. A second one, slightly different (more prominent engine compartment in the front) arrived to Spain in 1911.
There are some documents but no photos about a third vehicle that arrived in 1921.
You are correct about the TANKS site, but unfortunately the picture captions are incorrect. I will try and post some relative information this weekend that I hope will clarify this confusion.
All the Best
Tim R
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In "Los camiones protegidos Vol. I" by J. de Mazarrasa & S. Domínguez (published by JVC Libros) you can find the next dimensions associated to the first Schneider-Brillié:
- Length: 5.880 mm
- Height: 4.000 mm
- Width: 2.255 mm
- Wheelbase: 3.650 mm
- Width between wheels: 2.160 mm