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James H


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At an antiques place last week, saw what looked like a chrome or stainless Adrian in a showcase. They wouldn't let us take a photo, but the helmet had a crest on the front bearing the motto FLUCTUAT NEC MERGITUR. This turns out to be the motto of the city of Paris, and the helmet that worn by the Parisian fire brigade. Some googling has revealed the image shown below, but it seems there were some with SAPEURS POMPIERS on the front. Anyway, as we are often told, this was the model for Gen. Adrian's helmet.

 

 



-- Edited by James H on Tuesday 26th of March 2013 04:38:01 PM

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Yes, I saw an early 1900's film of Paris firemen on their horse drawn fire engines and the Adrians confused me until I realised - good job the British Army didn't copy the design of the British firemen!

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Hi James This link may be of interest the earliest recognisable examples seem to date back to the 1870s, Im not sure but I suspect the pic you have there is of a post WW1 example model 33?,  as all the earlier ones seem to have a seperate rim or at least a prominant ridge bettween shell and rim...

http://collection-pompier-laxou-54.pagesperso-orange.fr/casques_france.html

Apparantly the color determines the rank all brass ordinary fireman, brass shell and nicklel plate badge nco, nickle plated shell and gilded badge officer...

Theres a bit of Detaille in there I think or maybe he took his inspiration from the firemen....

My overall impression is that General Adrian was'nt so much the inventor of the "Adrian" helmet but rather the instigator of its widespread use in the french military and so I think its rightly named after him.....

There are similar helmets from other nationalitys: 

 http://www.brandweerhelmen.nl/Duitsland1.html

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-- Edited by Ironsides on Thursday 28th of March 2013 02:09:17 PM

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