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Because you can never have too many brown tanks, I'm really going to have to build something green soon, I decided to do a Mk.I supply tank.

Starting point was an Emhar MK.IV, why I hear you ask when it would be easier to start with a Master Box Mk.I... the simple answer is I already had an unfinished one I'd converted back to Mk.I spec and didn't know what else to do with it!

It still needs a roof hatch and silencer but it's basically ready for primer now.

As always your comments, criticisms or suggestions are welcome.



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Looks great, Bernie. Just a thought, though; would there have been a hatch in the roof above the commander and driver, in the way there was on the MkII Supply tanks, so that they can get in and out when the tank is loaded with stores?



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PDA wrote:

Looks great, Bernie. Just a thought, though; would there have been a hatch in the roof above the commander and driver, in the way there was on the MkII Supply tanks, so that they can get in and out when the tank is loaded with stores?


Thanks Phil, I'm pretty sure there would have been a hatch and also an exhaust silencer just like Mk.II supply tanks... they're both still on the "to-do list".

I've only ever found a couple of picture's of 712, the tank I intend to portray but on the side view (attached) you can definitely see a shallow raised square structure on the cab roof which looks to me to be a hatch.  



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I think you're right on all counts. And I speculate that they would have wrapped the exhaust pipe in asbestos string to further reduce the chance of catching the stores alight.



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I speculate that they would have wrapped the exhaust pipe in asbestos string to further reduce the chance of catching the stores alight.


That would make sense although judging by the way stores have been haphazardly thrown onto the roof I'm not sure how much sense would have gone into it no

I'm also going to need a large quantity of grousers, there appears to be one on every seventh track link so about 15 per side looking at the number of links on my other Mk.IV models... I'm going to need to break out the big magnifying glass again! 



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In my haste to get it into primer I completely forgot to add both the silencer and the roof hatch so they'll have to be done before the base colour goes on now.



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Glad to see you're finishing this model, would have been a shame not to.

How about camouflaging the model, then applying several washed out thin layers of the top brown paint, so that the camo shows through in places. Maybe try it on something first though.

Helen x

 



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How about camouflaging the model, then applying several washed out thin layers of the top brown paint, so that the camo shows through in places. Maybe try it on something first though.

Helen x 


Thanks Helen, I'm really taken with your idea.

I'll have to get there by a different route though as I've already got the base colour on but by subtly mixing yellows and greens with the brown base colour I should be able to achieve a patchy overpainted camo look... I love trying out new techniques so we'll see how it goes!

 

This is where we're up to now, roof hatch and silencer added and base colour and clear coat on.

I think I may have lost the plot as I also made a master for the 30ish grousers I'm going to need, as I'm also going to need them for some of my Mk.IIs and Mk.IVs casting them is the only way to go.  

 

   



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I am plannig to do a model like this with the new Takom Mk I and I have some questions.
In your model the rear bin has no doors. How could they load it?
In the rear section of the original tank there was the envelope radiator and the main gear differential so I think it was very difficoult to reach the new rear bin from inside through the rear escape door with crates and other stuff.
On the rear plate there was also the radiator filler cup and one of the trasmission chain gear cover on the covered side so I think the crew need some space to reach them for maintenance.
Very difficoult to do with no door on the rear.
Any opinion about this?

Second question: your bin has no bolts so I think you choose to reproduce a welded one.

Is this choice (if you did so) correct for the WWI time and for the British workshop facilites?
Pierantonio



-- Edited by Pierantonio on Sunday 18th of October 2015 09:22:19 AM

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Hi Pierantonio,

A good question and to be honest not one I'd really thought about.

The only picture I've seen of the rear stowage bin on a Mk.I supply tank is the one I've posted above and unfortunately the quality just isn't good enough to see much detail.
From the little that can be seen though there are no obvious doors, hatches or handles and as to welded or riveted construction there are two vague vertical lines running up the middle of the top plate which may be rows of rivets but again the picture's just not clear enough to tell.

So unless anyone out there can supply a better quality picture or more information I've just decided to leave it blank.



-- Edited by CrashandBern on Sunday 18th of October 2015 07:25:34 PM

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My best guess would be that the rear box is the same as on the MKII. The two lines you can see being the straps that run from the box to the top rear deck of the tank. Whether purpose built or field adaptation, it looks like to gain more protected space the box has been extended upwards, by the addition of three seperate removable metal or wooden panels. 

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MK1 Nut wrote:

My best guess would be that the rear box is the same as on the MKII. The two lines you can see being the straps that run from the box to the top rear deck of the tank. Whether purpose built or field adaptation, it looks like to gain more protected space the box has been extended upwards, by the addition of three seperate removable metal or wooden panels. 

Helen x

 -- Edited by MK1 Nut on Sunday 18th of October 2015 10:28:17 PM


 Ahh, now that would make a lot of sense. I'll be adding a couple strips to the box top section, thanks Helen.



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Strips added to the rear stowage box and all the grousers cast and fitted... they're a bit fragile so careful handling is the name of the game from here on! 

Shading and weathering next.



-- Edited by CrashandBern on Friday 22nd of January 2016 03:21:58 PM

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First black wash on...



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It looks very good!


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Thank you kindly lostiznaos.

 

The final oil washes and decals are on (Denis should recognise these smile) they went on perfectly with no problems at all.

So now it just needs a lot of stowage, final weathering and a base to call it's home.  



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Hello, Bernie!
Of course, these decals known to me)))
Great job, congratulations!

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Great job all round so far. Can't wait to see it on a base !
Paul

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Nice work! Needs a nice muddy base and a guy standing on the roof like in the classic film of a Supply Tank. At first I thought the guy on the roof was just messing around, then I wondered if it was a normal happening and he was spotting a way across bomb cratered ground while behind the lines.

Helen x

 



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Thanks all for the kind comments, a muddy base was just what I was thinking and I like the idea of a guy standing on the roof watching out for craters.
I'm intrigued about the film of a supply tank that's not something I've seen, is there a link where I can watch it?


Cheers
Bern

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