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Tim R


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Hello Gentleman


 


 I am on another information hunt, this time I am looking for information concerning, gas masks used during the war, from the very early ones forward, from all countries, especially Belgium, Russia, England etc etc. Drawings, Photos any thing would be appreciated.


 


 I am also searching for any thing relevant to gas, such as ways of dispersing it, i.e. shells, markings on shells, hand grenades, bombs etc. also counter measures, i.e., sirens, hand made bells/alarms, purpose build alarms, anti-gas agents etc.


 


Also does any one have any information as to if any specific tank battle included gas, casualties it may have caused, precautions taken, and was there any specific alarms used inside of tanks to warn of gas??? Or counter measures that could be employed to ovoid the effects inside of a tank, like rubber gaskets around openings etc.


 


Thanks in advance.


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eugene


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Tim I have some photos of Russian, and Romanian gas masks taht are pretty neat, also a photo of a Russian gas granade, Ill post them when I scan them.



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L A Marrison gives a graphic account being in a tank in the middle of a gas attack at Epehy Sept 17 1918. It was in the Royal Tank Corp Journal but I have a reprint. His tank was put out of action by a shell through one of the sprockets but by his account the crew and their performance were badly affected by the gas as were the 14 infantry they were carrying (it was presumably a Mk V*)  Box respirators were worn. They had no devices to tell if the gas was clear or not and would stick their fingers inside their gas masks and sniff to see if the gas was still present. It sounds from Marrison's account that the ventilation was so poor that gas remained trapped in the tank. Marrison had to be taken off by field ambulance but obviously lived to tell the tale. The tank commander was  a Lt Allan

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Further to my last posting - as far as I can see there was no attempt to seal tanks against gas (the crew would probably have suffocated or died through carbon monoxide poisoning). However in future designs (Mk VIII, Mk VI and possibly the Mk V***) the solution intended was to use forced ventilation to maintain positive air pressure in the tank (ie higher than outside) so that the airflow through vision slots etc. was from inside to outside and air was only drawn in through the vents which could have fillters fitted - this is basically the system use for NBC in modern tanks.

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Thanks Guys


I appeciate the help.


Tim R



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here is a webpage on the russian gas granade

http://www.inert-ord.net/russ02i/gas/index.html

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I've included a bunch of pictures, and here are some articles from the great site "The Great War in a Different Light".

Poison Gas
Discussing the use of poison gas
First gas attack

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Thanks a million Martin, I love that site, I quess I have just over looked it. Thanks.


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Hello Tim Rigsby!

The best compilation on gas-warfare in German is

"Der Gas-Krieg 1914-1918" by Dieter Martinetz
Edition "Bernard&Graefe Verlag" , Bonn, Germany 1996
ISBN 3 - 7637 - 5952 - 2

It contains the development of all used gases, engagements, even how-to's,
battles, history, results, casualties, ....the works. Most probably this entry in the forum will be withdrawn by US-authorities due to pertinent actualities.

Nothing for monoglots; needs good knowledge in german chemistry and tactics.
Nonetheless worthwhile to have and obtainable through the german edition or
from canadian-german sources you have to find out.

Translational help is with me.

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Pody

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Hello Gentlemen!
If my offer could not be related ensued authority:
translational work carried out may be found under the following:
http://www.u47.org/english/u47_crd.asp
Herr Rick D. Joshua and his french wife will give credits beyond measure.
Proove my abilities,

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Hello Pody


 If you are offering to translate the material from "Der Gas-Krieg 1914-1918", that would be awesome, except I have been unable to find the book. Any help would be appreciated.


all the best


Tim R



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I came across this pic of Russians in gasmasks. It struck me as odd that, despite the widespread use of gas on the Eastern Front (and the Russians sustaining the largest number of casualties) there are very few pics of Russian troops in gasmasks. I didn't realise that the canister on the Zelinskiy mask was an integral part - I though it was just a flat carrying case like the Italian model.


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