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Robin Maslen


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Nearly finished the restoration of this WW1 War trophy gun having stripped and fixed or rebuilt all parts (except the recuperator) to make them move. Our last challenge is to have the breech block slide in and out. As the handle and mechansim to make this happen is missing am trying to fathom how to make the bits or similar to make this work. I have the exploded view of the parts from the Waffen review 101 received from the GermanArmed Forces Federal Office for Military technology and procurement but this hasn't helped much

I will attach a couple of photos to see if it can help.

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Robin Maslen









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MarkV


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Hello,

I'm not sure if this is the same type of gun or how complete it is but the gun in the attached photo is located about 2 hours drive from my home here in Texas. (I'll post the two other photos that I have as well.)

I'm down in the area about once every two or three months or so and could take some measurements or more photos if you think they'd be of any help.

BTW - Could somebody positively identify the gun in my photos?

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Mark



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Last one...

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Robin Maslen


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Thanks Mark,

We have a similar gun here at the museum which has the Handle for the breech block so further photos wouldn't help much. Thanks for the offer though. What I am seeking is someone who might have made this mechanism work during a restoration project on a 10.5 cm German howitzer and might be able to give sketches or something that I could manufacture to make ours work.

Re identification. At first sight it looks like a 10.5 cm leichte feldhaubitze (light field howitzer). However the barrel looks much longer than ours. According to my German friend with 50 years experience in ordnance and the author of German Artillery of WW1 Dr Herbet Jager it is the barrel length that is the identifier of the particular model. Weighing and also max gun elevation being two other indicators.

eg The first in 1898 was leFH 98; after fitting a recoil tube became a le FH 09; the old le FH 89 were also reworked and called le FH 98/09; As the war showed that range of guns had to be increased and amongst a whole range of guns is ours a 10.5 cm le FH 16 of Rheinmetal design but built by an unknown factory with the initials on the Breech of RWF. Our barrel length is 2100mm putting it in the L/20 group rather than in the L/22 group.

These guns were made mainly by Krupp and Rheinmetal with some like ours outsourced to other factories. There are many little differences in them in addition to the fact near the end of the war many barrels were placed on other carriages. In Australia we had 152 of these types of guns delivered as war trophies to various local councils around the country and a register was kept of this which has been written up in a book by Maj R. Billett called "War Trophies" showing the size, serial number where captured by which unit at location and which Council or museum received it.

Hope this is interesting info for you. Now the photo of our gun as it stands almost ready for a paint job except for the wheels.

Robin



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Hello,

Thanks for your response. Your information is very interesting! Sorry, I've never worked on one of these and don't have any plans of their construction.

Here's another German gun in Texas. This one's quite a bit bigger over-all but acording to this website it's a Krupp 10.5 cm or 10.7 cm cannon K 08/10.

Krupp Gun

I don't know if it's mechanically similar to yours, but it is a bit closer to my home. I'm not sure if it would be of any help, but I drive by it about once a month if you or anyone else would like photos or measurements.

Mark

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Robin Maslen


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Hi Mark,

Your photo didn't come thru.

I use the info at the beginning of this forum from Vilkata I think his name is on how to upload photos to a server like simpload and the you can put it direct in the posting like mine above.

The joys of technology.

Cheers

Robin

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Oh, the photo was on the website that I linked to.

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Hello Mark -


As information, your first series of photos depicts a 7,7cm FK16.   The subject piece is a 10,5cm lFH16.   Your final pic is of a 10cm K17.  Excellent camera work, by the way !


 


 



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Robin Maslen


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Major,

I don't understand your reply. I thought that Mark's 3 photos were all of the same gun??

Robin

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Robin,

The first three photos that I sent were of the same gun. My later posting included a link entitled "Krupp Gun" to a website that had photos of another, larger gun here in Texas.

Hope this clears thing up.

BTW - Thanks for the help identifying the guns.

Mark

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That explains it. Thanks Mark

Robin

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