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Hughbearson


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Anyone?
We've done a lot of British tanks, so I think that we should do...
...exported models!

Here is a list of suggestions:-

Renault FT-17 and its variants (non-French)
Russian civil war armour
Exported Mark Vs (Russian, French, American, Estonian)
Stridsvagn m-21
Whippets

You could even do a planned - but never ordered - one!

I am more than happy to recieve more suggestions, or if people are interested, they could name a different genre to do?

Deadline is 30th of September, so no-one should need an extension.

Thanks, Hugh.


-- Edited by Hughbearson on Wednesday 4th of August 2010 06:10:18 PM

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Right, because there are no replies, I presume that no-one is really interested?
Please don't be offended by this, I would just like to know if this is anyones intention or not.

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I have the Hat FT-17 kits so I could put those together in a couple of weeks.

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Ok, that sounds great! As for me I've prepared absolutely nothing! (No money for it)

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So what are you going to build?

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I'm thinking that a Mk V would be good. Either Russian or Estonian.

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Which company? Is it resin or white metal?

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plastic fan wrote:

I have the Hat FT-17 kits so I could put those together in a couple of weeks.


Hi John, I built these Hat's some time ago. The pro: there were 2 in one box (nice color drawing too) but the con: they looked a bit like the old surprise gifts in cereal boxes.
They are a bit bigger than the Matchbox/Revell, which has better detail I think.
But being happy with any ww1 (affordable) model I couldn't resist and with a bit of work the Hat's look nice.

Kieffer

 



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Hi Kieffer, Those look really good! I was deciding beween the camouflage and the straight green color but I haven't made up my mind yet. I will be using the Landships article on detailing them as your right, that out of the box they are a little too simple. But the basic diminsions are there and some of the details are about like tke the Matchbox kit.  I will be posting the sponson conclusion soon then it is on to the other side.

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The Matchbox/Revell Renault FT (see this thread: http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=23550844) is in 1/76 scale, whereas the HaT models are 1/72. I wonder how the HaT ones compare, size for size, with those from RPM, which are also 1/72.

The problem I had with the HaT Renault FTs was getting the 'sand' colour paint to cover the dark green plastic.



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Renault FT
you can see a basic comparison here.....

left to right matchbox/revell, RPM, Hät

I would say theres not a lot in it size wise the slightly shorter track is down to me cocking up the position of the front wheel on the rpm kit...

RPM hard, over complex kit some fragile fiddly bits be prepared to spend some time, some would consider it a challenge others a nightmare... I enjoyed it and made another.....
Matchbox  Easy  nice little kit
Hät very easy needs some extra detail


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Hi Ironsides,

funny, there's something with the proportions, either the Hat's tracks and rollers are too small or the Revell track/rollers are too big? I compared them again and again with photos but it is difficult to find out what it is. I guess it is a difficult tank to model in such a small scale.

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plastic fan wrote:

... I was deciding beween the camouflage and the straight green color but I haven't made up my mind yet. I will be using the Landships article on detailing them as your right, that out of the box they are a little too simple.


Hi John, thanks for the compliment. I am always a bit greedy after purchasing a kit, when things are already glued together I start thinking..:might have been wiser and do some extra detailing/conversion work, open hatches for instance, before painting etc...
I didn't dare the camouflage pattern though that looks much more colorful of course.
And it's a pity the Hat hasn't decals, at least my box didn't but may be newer releases have them?
regards, Kieffer

 



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No, none of the HaT kits will have decals. But there many decals available from Black Lion Decals that include something suitable for the Renault FT:

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72004.jpg

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72007.jpg

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72008.jpg

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72009.jpg

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72010.jpg

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72018.jpg

http://www.blackliondecals.nl/images/72031.jpg

and the RPM kits come with many decal options.


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Hi Kieffer the 1st Ft is the matchbox kit probarbly 20+ years old and if i remember right the track are a soft plastic and somewhat stiffer then the recent revell reissue which is a soft rubber, as a result they dont fit so well and tend to bulge a bit....
It may be the camo as well which breaks the outline up pretty well... but there is a difference in size too not much but noticable when their side to side...
I have 5 Fts waiting for finishing  basic colour is done, just cant seem to find the time....

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I have to admit that while I will use rubber band tracks I prefer the plastic ones which is why I like the Hat kit. It also helps that you get two models which allows at least one for conversion work. When I was building 1/35 I never did like the rubber band tracks and I was really happy when hard plastic and white metal tracks came out. I don't build 1/35 any more due to cost and storage considerations but I still like the had plastic tracks so the Hat kits are ideal for me.

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plastic fan wrote:

Which company? Is it resin or white metal?



 Conversion from Emhar.



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Though, with the time, I might also/instead do the Russky Reno...

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I was thinking of doing either a French or Russian FT. If it is the Russian it would be a post war version with the cannon and m.g.

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A French FT wouldn't count as an exported model, so I recomment you do a Russian one.

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For a lot of the ones that Peter did, he used the RPM kits for the body, weapons, decals and turret, and the track units from HaT's kit. I believe his Reno and 6-tonner are both kit bashes like this.

There are resin track units available because the ones in the RPM kits are exceptionally fiddly, as Ironsides and others have said. They are made by Modelltrans, MT72005:

http://tracks-n-troops.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=52&products_id=4597

The HaT ones work out cheaper but are less detailed.

And then there are the photo-etch additions sets available from Part:

http://tracks-n-troops.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1049

and

http://tracks-n-troops.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=58&products_id=1050

How far down the rabbit hole did you want to go?

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Its really up to you, I don't mind how detailed or simple it is ;)

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I don't know........ I think I will stick to sheet plastic and brass. I like photo etch but it can be a little trying at times.

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ooh eer am i imagining things or are these seperate links for the 1/72 RPM FT...

http://tracks-n-troops.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5856

looks very good

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From some of the sets I've seen in magazines, some photoetch just seems unnessescary. Still, most of it improves the quality of sets greatly.

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Sorry, couldn't reply any earlier due to holidays in sunny France! I've been putting together a Medium B Whippet whilst sitting on the camping in the evenings with a cool beer at hand. In Latvian colors, it would be a suitable candidate in the export theme (the Whippet of course, not the beer..).

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Thats interesting, I didn't know that Latvia had them. Keep up the good work!

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EDIT; Exported also means captured.
Regards, Hugh.

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