Landships II

Hughbearson · General

Brilliant war art

Rectalgia · Legend

Thanks Hugh, I have not seen that site before (or not that particular forum), that is a brilliant resource.� Here is a shorter link:

http://foro.elgrancapitan.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=17518
...or a really short one .

The picture you linked to is on page 5 of the above.� Looks like many of those pics are on a dedicated server (that's good, they won't go AWOL piecemeal).� But I think the Spanish copyright laws may be a little different to those we're used to.

This one however is on ImageShack, and as we know to our sorrow, may be somewhat evanescent - hmmm ... so that's what the "nuts" on a Stalhelm were for - http://img339.imageshack.us/i/gs403.jpg/ (from that forum).� Don't mind me, I'm a slow learner, I always imagined they were some sort of over-engineered ventilators biggrin

Hughbearson · General

Possibly for some ventilation too. You would get pretty hot in a Stahlhelm compared to a Brodie or an Adrien!

Rectalgia · Legend

Heh, you could be right.

The average recruit's collar size would increase several sizes in the first few months of wearing the WW1-WW2-Vietnam era "tin hats" (truth - well, apart from "ruggger" players who have no necks). I can only imagine what extended use of that Stalhelm would do for muscle-building of the neck. Bit of a risk to the toes as well, a tendency to tip forward I would say. I suppose that could be balanced by hanging a sandbag off the back. Potentially a whole army of rugby players then. Better than a 7.62-8mm hole through the forehead though. Marginally.

kieffer · Commander in Chief

according to my knowledge you're both right. Ventilation as hang up for the extra shield as well. The bolts were drilled through. The thing weighed 1200 or 1400 gram (without addition) depending on the model. And that's a lot of weight on an human head I think. The rear part was not without risk too, could break one's neck. Well, at least that was the sinister story of 'close combat' techniques but if that ocurred often is discussed quite a few times.

Kieffer

Pat · Commander in Chief

kieffer wrote:

according to my knowledge you're both right.

There are several sources confirming that, e. g.

http://www.worldwar1.com/sfgstal.htm

What I find amazing is that the Stirnpanzer was used very little, though they didn't cease producing all mod. 1916 helmets with lugs. So I guess ventilation was� important enough to justify this additional effort.

Many thanks for the link, there are lots of interesting images (paintings). Regards, Pat

-- Edited by Pat on Tuesday 28th of September 2010 10:52:42 AM