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Pat


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The sash makes for an interesting uniform on these Schneider mod 1897 crew:
http://forum.ioh.pl/graficzki2/1271740441_847_003.jpg

The person who posted it on that forum added the caption:
75-. .

td.attachrow { font: 11px Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(43, 46, 35); border-color: rgb(43, 46, 35); }td.attachheader { font: 11px Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(43, 46, 35); border-color: rgb(43, 46, 35); }table.attachtable { font: 12px Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(43, 46, 35); border-color: rgb(43, 46, 35); border-collapse: collapse; } Google translation:

Lovely picture Gunners in 75-mm. Even bad shows types of ammunition for the guns.



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First thought is that they are French Foreign Legion, possibly in Morocco.

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The cummerbunds are a bit of a puzzle, otherwise seems standard "uniforme Artilleur non monté" in the 1910-1914 period, see second plate in http://grandeguerre1418.unblog.fr/tag/planches-duniformes-dandre-jouineau/les-armes-savantes/.

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MY first thought too was they are French Foreign Legion, I believe there is a pic in the book written by a french doctor "uncensored letters from the dardanelles" (pg 128) on the internet archive which shows similar troops but wearing sun hats carrying shells.....

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-- Edited by Ironsides on Saturday 18th of December 2010 01:02:52 PM

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Thanks for your input everybody. So French Foreign Legion seems a possibility.

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Well, apart from the hat and the trousers.  I thought the link I posted re LArtillerie Française en 1910-1914 was pretty close but evidently I'm in a minorityconfuse Looking at the Legion possibility, pro and con - other links from that same site show La Légion Etrangère but I saw nothing similar there (earlier period perhaps, and it is probably a far from exhaustive depiction - just infantry and cavalry/chasseurs but the Legion certainly had its own "support" services and troops - Les armes savantes - at least it did in later times).


-- Edited by Rectalgia on Sunday 19th of December 2010 03:21:03 AM

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Another pic can be found here

http://1ere-guerremondiale.xooit.com/t84-Operation-Dardanelle.htm 

where they are described as " montrant un canon de 75, occupé par des tirailleurs" there are some details in "uncensored letters from the dardanelles" of the use of the supporting 75s mostly secound hand from wounded taken aboard the Transport the book is well worth a read...

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It looks like artillery fatigue dress, but the sash gives the game away. Some pics here and here.

The sash was worn by the Zouaves, the Algerian, Moroccan, Senegalese, and Malagasy Tirailleurs, and by the FFL (as well as African Chasseur and Spahi cavalry).

The nearest to the chaps in the original pic would seem to be FFL summer campaign kit. On the other hand, "Un canon de 75, occupé par des tirailleurs"  would indicate that the gun is operated by Tirailleurs of one kind or another, which is confusing.


-- Edited by James H on Sunday 19th of December 2010 02:11:44 PM

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Interesting research and references James, Ivor. You guys are good!smile.gif

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Thank you, Stephen. Unfortunately, not so good as to be able to tell you who the blokes are . . .

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James H wrote:

It looks like artillery fatigue dress, but the sash gives the game away. Some pics here and here.

The sash was worn by the Zouaves, the Algerian, Moroccan, Senegalese, and Malagasy Tirailleurs, and by the FFL (as well as African Chasseur and Spahi cavalry).

The nearest to the chaps in the original pic would seem to be FFL summer campaign kit. On the other hand, "Un canon de 75, occupé par des tirailleurs"  would indicate that the gun is operated by Tirailleurs of one kind or another, which is confusing.


-- Edited by James H on Sunday 19th of December 2010 02:11:44 PM


It won't be long you will be telling us "pictured right is Jacques who would later marry Gelatine Croupier (after mate poaching her from Ezéchiel, left) and start the Chez Jacques bistro in Amiens which was renowned for its shells".

I appreciate the trouble all of you went through digging all this info out, thanks a lot.

Some more images showing certain similarities:

"Malagasy Tirailleurs":
http://www.mada.pro/mada-pro/srcs/www/design/medias/sabine_2.jpg

Tirailleurs (and others):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23416307@N04/3809359584/sizes/o/in/photostream/

"Algerien Tirailleurs":
http://aureschaouia.free.fr/webgallerie/galleries/archive-14-18/guerre14-18-tirailleurs-algeriens-5e-reg-maison-carree-1914.jpg

"Tirailleurs Marocains":
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5852/52352875.gif

 



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