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LincolnTanker · Commander in Chief

BL 12" Railway Howitzer

Ironsides · Legend

Hi LT from what I can see the text and most images if not all are�the same on�Wikipeadia, also for a number of other articles I looked at of ships guns and tanks...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_12_inch_railway_howitzer

No citation for Wiki that I can see.

Cheers confuse

-- Edited by Ironsides on Wednesday 23rd of March 2011 10:58:44 AM

PDA · Legend

Check who the webmaster of the blog is. Maybe patriotfiles's David Bailey has "gone under cover" biggrin

Rectalgia · Legend

Do any of the AWM pictures help provide any clue to the history of that gun?

http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/H13237
http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/E01210
http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/E04615
http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/H08365
http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/H08366

I can't tell - they all look the same to me ashamed

Ironsides · Legend

The image is the same as this one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maharaja_of_Patiala_inspects_12_inch_railway_howitzer_1918_NLS_74301083.jpg

from a wiki article about the man no further details on the gun though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhupinder_Singh_of_Patiala

seems he died at 46 not suprising as he had 365 wives.... wink

( this rings a bell)

a source here for the original�pic cited from wiki as NLS.. from the papers of Field Marshal Haig see note at bottom... Location Borre 20 august 1918(unconfirmed)

http://digital.nls.uk/pageturner.cfm?id=74546962

Osprey Heavy Artillery 1914-18 has a paragraph on these guns which would also�indicate this is a MKIII.
35 MKIIIs(recuperator over barrel and limited�arc of fire)�and MKVs(recuperator under barrel and 360 arc of fire)�were built..

MKIIs and IVs (road transported) can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_12_inch_Howitzer

Cheers smile

-- Edited by Ironsides on Wednesday 23rd of March 2011 02:07:19 PM

Rectalgia · Legend

Excellent, thanks.

Ironsides · Legend

This Book Railway artillery�contains some good info including usefull drawings�see from page 126 for British Guns...

The book describes the 12 inch Howitzer MKI and II as similar railway mounts and also the MKIII and MKV as similar.... Although Osprey as previously described says the MKI and MKIII were similar the main difference�being in the length of the gun.

�Cheers smile

-- Edited by Ironsides on Thursday 24th of March 2011 11:13:34 PM

green_acorn · Captain

Hi,

I am in the process of constructing four or five model railway diorama's (1/76 scale) showing the workings of the railway system in France/Belgium during WW1. They will show the railways working from the Casualty Clearing Station to the animal and man powered tramways. The (working) diorama's (1.2m long) are intended to be individual exhibited here in Australia, with fiddle yards at either end, and connect together to be a working layout in my garage (L shaped 5.6m x 4.8m). I would very much like to include Mk 3 or Mk 5 12" Railway Howitzers on the gun spurs, with one lowered for firing and one that can be moved.

Can anyone help me with plans of the howitzers? I have the usual books and images, but don't have a plan view. My intent is to get the wagon, bogie frames, gun mount and barrel 3D printed. Though I may get the barrels machined in aluminium by a mate. Second, does anyone have experience with photogrammetry programs? Can they be used effectively with the few images of these guns to help create a CAD image/CAM?

Cheers,
Hendo

-- Edited by green_acorn on Saturday 6th of February 2016 02:12:57 PM