as some of you know, I am always interested in strange weapons, even when they came to nothing. And here is a tantalizing reference :
From Paul d'Ivoi 1907 novel "Miss Mousqueterr" it could be seen as pure SF but there is a note which suggests inspiration came from a real event .
At the beginning of the scene some guy is firing through an open door into the "Cave of the Machines", a Bat-cave-style room.
"a clap, a whittle and I had a strangled cry. A prodigy is hapening right in front of me.
The bullet never went beyond the arch of the door of the Cave of Machines
It became incandescent, describing strange orbs in the air, like big fire bug" (translated by myself, page 344 in the French text on Gallica)
At first it reads like rather creative fiction, being widely different from usual depiction of a "forcefield" in modern novels or movies.
The strange thing is the note attached to this story:
"experiments carried out in great secrecy, by a commission of German Engineers, in the bunkers of the Essen range. It is expected that soon this kind of electrical armor could be applied to fortifications, this would render any bombardment harmless"
So the question is two-fold : what was the source which inspired Paul d'Ivoi ? And what really happened (if indeed the German experimented any electrical device) ?
the "incandescent" aspect would suggest some kind of ionisation effect ? But were ionisation effects known in 1907 ?
An alternating magnetic field would induce electrical currents in any conductive material entering it - possibly heating it to incandescence if of sufficient amplitude. A fixed polarity magnetic field will resist the passage of a conductor through induced current (principle used to dampen the oscillations in some beam balances). A strong enough field could possibly both halt a projectile and vapourise it.
You may recall earlier discussion of Giulio Ulivi's "Radiobalistica" - that may have some factual foundation in using high-powered high frequency radio (radar waves we call them now, then all lumped together under "infra red") to induce the same sort of effects you see if placing an incandescent light globe or a CD or whatever metallic items in a microwave oven (not a recommended experiment - find demonstrations on YouTube instead - or some of the stuff at http://amasci.com/weird/microwave/voltage1.html).
All sorts of people (such as Nicola Tesla) were experimenting most enthusiastically with all kinds of radio and magnetic effects, often at most prodigious power levels, from before 1900.
Ionisation? Probably not though I'm sure ionisation was, indeed, experimented on well before 1907. Cathode rays (electron beams) go back to 1875 or before.
I thought of ionisation because I could not see what the "usual" SF magnetic field would do to rifle bullets which I thought were mostly done of non-magnetic material. And if of magnetic material I thought it would just either make a kind of "soft" barrier (with the bullet falling down to Earth as in the common depiction of such a device). of slow down a goes to Earth in a parabolic way. In any case they would not go swirling in the air ? The illustration in the novel shows the bullet going a swirling path like a firefly (insect).
Anyway do you imply this kind of experiment could have been made with the results as described in the novel ?
So I am puzzled : if someone had working forcefields circa 1905, how comes none of these ever made it in one of the following conflicts, revolutions or just street troubles that humans instigated in the past century ?
You already know or have seen that a conductor moving in an electrical field (or vice-versa) will have electrical current generated within it. That's how generators, alternators, magnetic pickups, turntable magnetic cartridges and many more devices all work. That current creates its own magnetic field which reacts with the field of the inducing magnet (basically it opposes the inducing field). It actually works best if the conductor is non-magnetic. Don't take my word for it - just use a search engine and look up magnetic damping which is the simplest application and closest to producing effects such as those you are talking about.
If the induced current (eddy current - another search term) is high enough, it will generate considerable heat by way of the electrical resistance of the material through which it flows. I have little doubt a magnetic field strong enough to stop a rifle bullet (and maybe even turn it into incandescent vapour) could be generated. I have little doubt experiments were conducted with this in mind, long ago. I have little doubt they were completely impractical because the power requirements would be huge, the "protected" area tiny and, once upon a time, people allocating or subscribing funding for such research had little or no independent idea of the physics involved and/or the scaling factors associated with turning a small-scale demonstration into a practical device.
As also mentioned, a microwave pulse of sufficient power and focus could doubtless achieve a similar result but I am less confident that is achievable, even today. But the Gunn diode from the target acquisition radar of a cold-war era jet fighter, combined with a suitable wave guide, could certainly make a mess of a small rodent, especially if he was wearing a studded collar.
Alas, the popular technology and science journals have always been full of such ideas that capture the imagination and, in their time, are much discussed and enthused over. Very few of them become real-world applications, many of them, perhaps most of them, remain possibilities for future times and circumstances. Also, in 1905/07, the Kaiserlich Deutsches Reich was pushing all sorts of frontiers to assert its scientific and technological pre-eminence and there was much speculative research. In its 47 years, 1871 to 1918, I understand it amassed more Nobel Prizes than all of the other Great Powers combined.
So I am puzzled : if someone had working forcefields circa 1905, how comes none of these ever made it in one of the following conflicts, revolutions or just street troubles that humans instigated in the past century ?
JCC
Because they didn't have a working forcefield! Simple as that.
As Rectalgia says, the journals have always been full of wacky inventions that never saw the light of day. How many times have many of us come across accounts in dusty old books or magazines of death-rays, electric guns etc.?
Popular magazines are the worst because they have to sell to as many readers as possible and they're not peer-reviewed academic journals, so they indule in the most sensationalistic rubbish: for example, The Electrical Experimenter Nov 1915 claiming to have a 'radium destroyer' with a cover illustrating a walking death machine spitting killing rays. You only have to look at some magazine covers to see the nonsense they were peddling:
Basic rule of thumb: if it looks revolutionary but never went into production and was never heard from again, then it didn't work, either because the inventor sincerely tried to produce something useful and was simply too far ahead of contemporary technology, or because he was a crackpot/conman.
Even more basically it boils down to the old maxim: just because it's written down doesn't make it true.
I would doubt even more something quoted in a work of fiction: what was the author's source? Was there even a source? He may have included a completely fictional but 'authentic looking' note to lend his story verisimilitude, like fake newspaper reports in an H G Wells tale.
-- Edited by Roger Todd on Tuesday 3rd of January 2012 05:55:04 PM