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Hello, I  wonder which units/soldiers would You like to buy if any manufacturer would produce it in plastic? Please write units like infantry or cavalry



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Ps write also which scale they shoud be

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Is this research for a company you own or work for, Kamil?



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I don't wokr or own any cmpany. I just want people to write their suggestions. Maybe if some ideas will repeat one manufacturer will produce those figures

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For instance I think that it would be great to buy German uhlans and cuirassiers in 1/72. I also think that Hat or Zvezda should produce them

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I've found that in plastic there are only 2 manufacturers who listen to their customers: Strelets and HaT. I lobby both of those on their own forum, and it seems most other people do as well. Airfix, Zvezda and Emhar clearly do not read this forum, although I wish they did. Caesar are very friendly and open to new ideas, but you have to email them. In short, if you have new ideas for plastic figures the best place to post them is on either Strelets' or HaT's forum (or both). As a general forum, this one is quite moribund, but you could also try Benno's.

It's completely different for resin or metal figures, where we are lucky enough to have many manufacturers who are active members of this forum



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Is this forum quite moribund? oh dear...

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If the manufacturers will not come to the Forum... 

Personally moribund, and having waited for a number of items unlikely to appear in my lifetime, I would recommend a life drawing class and some books of comparative anatomy.blankstare

At present the unresponsive Zvezda has some whimsically ingenious sculpting in evidence. (Take a look at the Art of Tactic ninja figures, reviewed elsewhere.)

There is nothing to suggest any probability of WW1 figures from them, and their previous attempt to produce WW1 era figures were by a different hand, in a different material.hmm

Hat Industrie would appear to employ a very competent illustrator...confuse

Strelets. disbelief

So, does anyone know of some spare injection moulding capacity?cry

Would anyone care to engage in a discussion about the practicalities with me? 

 

 

 



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I have emailed Caesar a couple of times to enquire about the French Infantry they promised a long time ago. Never had a response.



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It would be great to have those French soldiers! Some time ago there was an info about Hat's German cavalry. If I remember it was late cavalry and uhlans. Does anybody know about them?

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d_fernetti wrote:

Is this forum quite moribund? oh dear...


That's my opinion. Look at how different the forum is from what Peter started. All the experts talking about the unproveable and unknowable just turns me away. There are more comments about WW1 AFV model making on Benno's and Strelets than there are here, and whilst I like those other places I feel like Peter's great idea has passed away along with him (or it soon will - moribund).



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James H wrote:

I have emailed Caesar a couple of times to enquire about the French Infantry they promised a long time ago. Never had a response.


I've been discussing British Infantry with them, with a very enthusiastic response.



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PDA wrote:
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I have emailed Caesar a couple of times to enquire about the French Infantry they promised a long time ago. Never had a response.


I've been discussing British Infantry with them, with a very enthusiastic response.


Then you must tell me what I'm doing wrong. Are the French likely to appear?

On the subject of Landships, the original slug was:  "Landships - A site for WW1 Military Modelling. This site is dedicated to World War One Military Hardware. And to the Modeling of this stuff." Partly because I'm a rubbish modeller, I enjoy the historical/technical/theoretical stuff and a bit of detective work, and it can all interweave with the modelling side. I think it's all grist to the mill, and I don't think Peter would disapprove at all. I think the categories into which the Forum is divided were drawn up by Peter, and Modelling is just one of them. It's a broad church, isn't it?



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Well, Personally my model korps leaves much to be desired. The HaT German heavy weapon set is good, but I don't like mixing stahlhelms and pickelhaube troops together. I wish there was heavy weapons set available to those that model early war Germans as well as late war. furthermore, my communication and medical trops leave much to be desired. When will someone poduce WWI hospital figures? Lastly, there is a huge gap in the line of pioneers. Whats missing? pontoons thats what. a searchlight kit wouldn't be bad either. The modeling world could use sappers of all sorts. 3/4ths of trench warfare was improving the hole in the ground you called home.

PDA is right. I myself haven't seen too many model threads lately. I have a bunch  of stuff finished I could showcase. And I think it would serve as a inspiring reminder that a main focus here is modeling. I also agree with James that speaking from a modeler's point of view, we don't always know how some equipment may have looked or functioned, (especially trenchers) and that threads dedicated more to theories rather than modeling sometimes don't start out as such. A person like me simply asks a modeling question, and then checks back in a few days and either finds the question answered, or a giant speculative discussion taking place on the thread that was orginally started to glean the information. either way it is interesting and I very much enjoy going over the history sometimes involved. however, there are times when I look at a thread, and it's like 'could I just get my question answered please guys' you know. we've all been there.

And thats my two pfennings.

Greetings, Josh



-- Edited by FR73 on Thursday 30th of May 2013 06:55:41 AM

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I like those matters too, but I think there should be some sort of balance and lately, it seems to me, this forum has lost that balance.

I'd be very pleased and interested to see your "rubbish" modeling skills. I love genuine work in progress stuff that shows real model making, rather than a perfectly finished model with no explanation; that doesn't help me improve. If Peter had not explained how to paint tank tracks or British uniforms, I never would have got the results I have got (not that I think my skills are particularly good). I loved Plastic Fan's step-by-step guides, and Hans' Cambrai "How To", and Stefan's series on diorama building (which went unremarked).

It just seems to me that as a model-making forum this place has ceased to be.



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Agreed the manufacturers most likely to listen are HaT and Strelets. Early War Miniatures might be worth a try as well (if you like metal figures).

I'd buy

- French early war artillery crew

- German early war artillery crew

- German combat engineers

- Austro-Hungarian early war cavalry

for starters.

I feel I must disagree with PDA's conclusion about the forum's state. There are many interesting threads here, just been admiring Diomichi's excellent vehicle and figures, and there are often very interesting "industry" news. Surely when HaT will be releasing the next batch of new WW1 sets this will ignite more conversations here.

We cannot compare the situation now to three or so years ago, when braille scale modelling (and most of the work shown here is in that scale) was on an exceptional peak with more sets released every year. Now the number of new sets has normalized and so the threads about them. Regards, Pat



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I could send PDA a photo of an unpainted Mk IV Female with one of the sponsons on upside-down and a big, gluey thumbprint on the side, but I don't see how that would contribute to the debate.

More of a thinker than a doer.



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Figures is an area I have only considered theoretically, I haven't bought any sets, but I think Diego makes a good point that there is a need for figures with relaxed poses.

Rats? At 1/72?? Mind you, I did find an expression Diego used in an old thread rather memorable: "conga-rats" instead of "congrats" (deliberately, I suspect). That one just conjures up images of a diorama with tin-hatted bipedal rodents partying their way through the trenches, peaking round corners as they await their chance to slip into a dug-out and steal some food, their 'Ratatouille'-style eyes glinting with mischief, whilst around them the humans get on with their surreal existence. A comment on the absurdity of war!



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James H wrote:

...More of a thinker than a doer.


 



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I think I did those.



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That's what I thought.



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Yes it would be great to have KuK early cavalry. As for French early figures therir is a lack of Zouves. I also think that their should be more soldiers in winter uniforms

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Well, I seem to have treaded over a neat minefield here. Glad to see fireworks going up!
I'm a sort of latecomer to the forum. While I've been subscribed to it since a good while ago, I think I actively started participating in threads only a few years ago, perhaps 2 or 3. Still, I wish I could contribute more, but my references on the ground equipment are few and my knowledge is sketchy. I actually enjoy the reference discussion, book hunting, the posting of industry news, the rare photos that surface here and there (and dread to know that the new Flickr has perhaps ruined one of the most amazing resources on WW1 photography we ever had).
on Modelling subjects... well, here, apart from the most old and basic WW1 sets from Airfix and Revell, little is possibly available. While I actually built an RPM Ford T Ambulance and a Mack truck, I wish I could have found and built more kits. I still have a few unbuilt tanks, but reading the threads I feel that I should do lots of improvements that I get easily sidetracked into projects I know more of, like airplanes. Same happens with the multitude of more or less planned scratchbuilts -and fellow forum member and fellow countryman Eduardo Mamoretti is a great inspiration- a number of things I'd love to draw and start soon.
So I'd deplore if this forum would cease to exist since it's a gathering of very informed people and passionate modellers, besides being a great group of people.
So... figures suggestions, you asked? Here's my list:
- Soldiers at rest and/or wounded -every nationality. I dislike "dead" figures (for instance that sad Revell French trooper) but it would be interesting to have soldiers seated, eating a meal, walking with bicycle at his side, smoking. In fact, most mainstream soldier figures have lots of "action" but very little relaxed poses, which are plenty and well made on Preiser civilian sets, for instance.
- Pets and animals: cats, dogs, pigeons, horses, goats, heck, even rats! Variety of poses and breeds. While not strictly WW1 themed, a set with lots of animal figures is something that would help populate any diorama.
- Drivers and sundry transportation -every nationality: not only seated in driving poses, but also checking maps, smoking, putting on coats, carrying boxes, perhaps some tankers, mechanics and officers too. And hopefully better sculpted than the unfortunate Strelets (?) airmen.
- Work parties -every nationality- plus tools and carts. Yes, again no "action" men in the warring sense, but a set like that can be posed on every scenario, from a trench to a railroad line. Diggers, carpenters, wiring parties, masons... the imagination flies. Just imagine a set of Asian workers with their exotic uniforms!
- WD has released a set in "parade" order. This is very refreshing and sure it'll be lots of fun for the obsessive minds like mine who love to have figures all lined up and looking neat. We O.C. need more of these! As an aside, men in walking-out unifomrs would be nice too, to populate urban scenes.
- Marines: French and British. Early war.
- More Turkish sets! Bet there's a lot of almost unknown uniforms that would have been possible to see in the Eastern front.
- AH and German cavalry, dismounted.
- Belgians, especially in 1914.

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Would you like some "rat-au-van" to help you think?

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Saute or fricassee....

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Not to forget the "Gas Alarm" Rabbit and of course Ferret rat control.....

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Richard van Emden's book, "Tommy's Ark" is worth seeking, and may provide some interesting insights. After a personal encounter with undesirable rodents of relatively modest size , I would not rule out a small diorama depicting the aftermath of "ratting" episode. I believe terriers were often unofficially enlisted.

 



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d_fernetti wrote:

Would you like some "rat-au-van" to help you think?


 Hmmm. What sort of van?



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