Landships II

PDA · Legend

Strelets Guns Ident

Ian P · Major

The second one looks like a Krupp C73 9cm, which was obsolete by WW1 but still in use in German reserve formations.

Ironsides · Legend

The Russians built their own versions of Krupp Guns but using Bronze instead of steel as a result during the Russo Turkish war many failed under heavy use. I think the mountain gun like the field piece is based on Krupp type guns but other then that I cant say exactly which, but maybe a russian version of the Krupp�6cm�Gebirgsgesch�tze circa 1870.

The lower gun is probably meant to represent a very early Krupp(C64ish) as I believe the later models had a reinforced barrel making them somewhat thicker with a step just forward of the trunnions to the breech see here:

http://landships.activeboard.com/t52021561/c64-at-burg-altena/

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Pf%C3%BCnder-Feldkanone_C/64

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Pf%C3%BCnder-Feldkanone_C/67

This book may be of some help�The Russian Army and its Campaigns �1877-78�

I would use both to represent older guns used in Africa during WW1.�

Best Regards smile

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-- Edited by Ironsides on Saturday 5th of October 2013 02:20:14 PM

Pat · Commander in Chief

PDA, it depends how accurate you want the gun to be or how much work you want to put in it.

Not claiming any expertise, to my eyes these Bulgarian guns are quite close:

http://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgarian%20Artillery%201/Krupp%2087mm%201873.htm

http://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgarian%20Artillery%201/Krupp%208cm%20old.htm

http://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgarian%20Artillery%201/Broadwell%2060mm_Gb.htm

There might be some more here

http://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgarian%20Artillery%201/Testi/T_Captured%20guns.htm

but I think I've picked the ones closest to the field gun. None looks similar to the little mountain gun, though.

I think the main problems with the Strelets field gun are the carriage, which looks to heavy, and the wheels, which taper. Regards, Pat

-- Edited by Pat on Sunday 6th of October 2013 05:34:01 PM

-- Edited by Pat on Sunday 6th of October 2013 06:33:16 PM

PDA · Legend

Thanks Ian and Ironsides.

I was thinking of either older guns in Africa or older guns in Ottoman service. But it seems the models are probably not worth the expense (about $10 per box).

kkfj1 · Major

I think the Russian mountain gun you posted, is in fact quite similar to the bronze mountain guns used by second-line Japanese troop during Russo-Japanese war.