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Legend

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Another WWI "Commando Books" Issue.
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This time it's the Battle of the Marne, taxis and everything, which gives us a precise date. Anybody notice anything?



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The officer wearing OR's webbing equipment? I.e. well before they did that as a matter of common sense. Or the NCO being called 'Sir' - either way it is wrong?



-- Edited by Lothianman on Wednesday 19th of February 2014 04:09:47 PM

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I think he's an NCO, judging by the collar. But that's a good point. I hadn't noticed that.

However, there's something much more obvious. You're warm-ish. It's September 1914, remember.



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No, stuck ...

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James H wrote:

I think he's an NCO, judging by the collar. But that's a good point. I hadn't noticed that.

 A Warrant Officer perhaps?  They were/are called "Sir", I think - or is it only certain appointments in those ranks (WO 1 and 2, surely not the short-lived WO 3 though?).



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Well, I didn't expect to be having this conversation, but according to the "W" word, "Warrant officers are not saluted, but are to be addressed as 'Sir/Ma'am' by subordinates. Their seniors may address warrant officers either by their appointment (e.g. QMSI, RSM or sergeant major) or as "Mister", "Mrs", or "Ms" and then their last name, e.g. "Mr Smith". Which reminds me that my father-in-law was a Master Gunner, a post in which, he said, you could call inept officers any name you wanted, as long as the last word in the sentence was "Sir." He is no longer available for consultation.

But . . . that's not what I'm on about. Much more visual. I'm amazed no one has got it.



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Is it his gas mask should be hanging off his webbing, not as I think it appears using a cross body strap?  confuse



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Gas mask? In 1914? It's worse than I thought.



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James H wrote:

Gas mask? In 1914? It's worse than I thought.


 I wouldn't judge anything by me, my knowledge of Army Uniforms and Equipment is none existent. :D



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Without looking anything up - is it either their shaven upper lips, or the haversack?

The rifle magazine looks a little odd but within artistic limitations ...

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OK. It's 1914. Our hero is the son of a soldier who has just passed away. He joins the Army with a view to being a career soldier. So he's a Regular, not a Kitchener man. War breaks out, and he ends up in France in September 1914. So what's wrong with the pictures?

Nothing to do with facial hair or terms of address. Can't give any more clues without giving it away.



-- Edited by James H on Thursday 20th of February 2014 08:44:25 PM

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Well, I would expect a Regular in September 1914 would have P1908 webbing, not P1914 leather stuff.

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Rectalgia wrote:

Well, I would expect a Regular in September 1914 would have P1908 webbing, not P1914 leather stuff.


 Aha!



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