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Hero

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Prompted by a related thread on building an improved 1/35 Tamiya Mk.IV, I started checking carefully my own Emhar Mk.IV kit, and discovered that it also seems to be based on the Bovington machine. The rearmost roof panel has the same "doors" and it needs adding the rear wall and fuel tank armor plates, as described in the model review elsewhere in the website.

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For this purpose, I drew a simple sketch depicting what I could glean from some photos of preserved tanks, in order to make scale drawings of the needed parts to correct the basic layour of the Emhar kit in 1/72. Please comment if there is any flagrant innacuracies or it needs more parts that depicted. After scanning the drawing I see that I erred here and there with the amount of rivets, but no worries, I took care of counting them properly on the plans I drew (which I have to test first ON the kit parts to see if they fit).

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-- Edited by d_fernetti on Wednesday 3rd of September 2014 02:02:56 PM

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Your drawing looks accurate, Diego. The thing to watch out for is the top armour plate resting on the petrol tank flap; it is correct how you have drawn it, but I have seen a model where the top plate was resting on the flap, so in real life the crew would never have been able to put petrol in. Looking at photos of survivors, I think the petrol flap on Emhar's model is too large.

Also, your drawing shows the correct exhaust pipe. The one in the Emhar kit is way too long.

Here's the back end of my build - not perfect, not even close to perfect, but I am reasonably happy with it:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8143190019_6d26c0119a_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8069/8253230242_32d698f80d_c.jpg

Of course, the next one will be better!

(But it would be nice if Master Box just came out with a perfect Mark IV to save us all this trouble!)



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Nice drawing Diego and right on the money as far as the details go.
PDA's correct the Emhar petrol flap is either too large or too far back which makes the armour plate sit too steeply but it's not easily corrected (btw. nice Mk.IV Phil and the Mk.I in background looks good too).
I wouldn't be surprised if Master Box did a Mk.IV as their Mk.II will give them most of the parts required... and maybe a Mk.V to follow???

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Has anyone else noticed "new and improved" seems to mean it doesn't work as well as it used to?

 



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Thanks guys! Well I suspected that the petrol tank opening flap hinge line was somewhat different from the photos. The kit alos has the petrol tank piece mounted on two small "L" surfaces that keep it slightly away from the vehicle body back (I'll post photos of them later). I erased these mounting aids, and also the vertical reinforcing rivetted lines that lie behind the petrol tank, in order to glue it flush to the back wall of the body.
I'll check if the pieces, as I made them, would interfere with the petrol tank opening.

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CrashandBern wrote:

... (btw. nice Mk.IV Phil and the Mk.I in background looks good too)...


Don't want to thread hijack, but thanks CrashandBern. The MkI was made years ago using the Matador conversion kit. She was involved in a collision with a baggage handler on one side or the other of the Atlantic. One of her Vickers went all to pieces, and since then she has not been reunited with her tail wheels. She has also, off and on, become a test bed for camouflage paint scheme experiments.



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I need to finish my Mk.Is as well... I plan to draw the exhaust shields of the Mk.Is as I did the armor plates of the Mk.IV one of these days.
BTW, Phil, I see that you obliterated the rear roof panel "doors" as well. But in the next panel forward, there's traces of erasing another surface feature. What was that? I don't have my kit at work, that's why I ask!!

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d_fernetti wrote:

... in the next panel forward, there's traces of erasing another surface feature. What was that? ...


On the kit, there is a line of rivets or bolts going up the centre of the panel from front to back. It never existed in real life. For some reason, Airfix invented it and put it on their kit, and I guess Emhar just copied it.

If you look at CrashandBern's MkIV tanks, you can see he has tackled the same problem - the funny little roof doors and the weird line of rivets are gone. He has also been careful not to block the petrol tank flap with the rear armour panels he has added.



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Ohhh! I see. I'll sand them buggers flat. Perhaps the Bovington tank has the modification, as much as it has the little mysterious doors? (BTW what one whould find on opening them?)

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