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I recently build Kora Lebedenko tank. Resin casting is terrible. I have to completely replace all the girders, weapons and back "deckhouse".

It took me 1.5 months to complete.



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Some pictures before painting. You can see the model upgrades.



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Excellent bit of modelling Anton...but with the price you pay for resin kits, you shouldn't have had to do all that extra work!!

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Granty101 wrote:

Excellent bit of modelling Anton...but with the price you pay for resin kits, you shouldn't have had to do all that extra work!!

Grant


 Thanks Grant,

 

You are absolutely right, but model not correct.

I realized it only after I purchase it. In order to bring it to the right form I have to change at least conspicuous things – like one rear wheel instead of three, wrong hull and other “big” things. There are a lot of pictures of the machine available in the internet and I can not understand why such mistakes were made by Kora.

Below sample of the casting. 



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Great work, Anton. You built a good model from a quite poor kit. Well done.

 



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Thanks,
I hope my experience would be helpful for anybody who decided to build this model.


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A brave move by Kora to bring out a model of this unusual vehicle, but like you say Anton, it's not correct, and there are enough internet images of the real thing, so they should have got it right...or as right as they could.

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There are very few images of the Lebedenko tank. Oddly the box art of the Kora model (attached) looks

like the two cardmodel Lebedenkos (Homespun Magixx, Wektor) and is quite different from the box contents. The Kora model seems to be based

on artist impressions of the Lebedenko from a Russian publication rather than the few photographs of the beast.

Regards,

Charlie

 



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In actual fact, there are only three pictures of the real thing that I've been able to find, one of which is just a mirror image of the original.

I have the 1/48th card model that I'm using to build a 1/35th scale in plastic card and have noticed a few things wrong both on the card model and on the Kora kit.

Looking at photos of the kits, it would seem as if they all had a common beginning.

The Kora kit has steel plates on the wheels instead of wood and the rivet pattern underneath does not match that on top.  The wheels could never had been cast or moved in one piece, so the joints are missing.

Whether the rear wheel would not have been cast in one piece or three -  it would certainly have made sense for it to be in three pieces for casting and transporting purposes - look at ordinary steam rollers - most of them had a two-piece front roller.

The springs on the front end of the rear wheel assembly do not make sense unless the rear of the bracket is hinged - which it isn't.

The large wheels would not have been cast as a T-beam because of the problem trying to curve it without cutting a lot of fillets out of the web to stop it buckling and then welding it back into one piece.

If you look for pictures of the propulsion mechanism, the large wheel is shown as two angles, with a rubber tyre running against each curved metal part forming the cross-piece of the "T" - if you're doing weathering, you would need to add skid marks to the steel.

No matter what source you use, it's going to be conjecture but, as is usual with most kits, no-one with engineering experience has ever been used to consider things like rivets vs bolts, break points, fixing points, etc, but is 1/72 I suppose that doesn't matter too much.

Tony

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Tony I agree with you on the all topics except rear wheel. You can clear see one rear wheel on the attached picture. I also attached all the pictures I have.



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Tonys wrote:

In actual fact, there are only three pictures of the real thing that I've been able to find

 


Well ZigZag has managed to pull up a few more. Have you tried Googling it in Russian?

Grant



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Well ZigZag has managed to pull up a few more. Have you tried Googling it in Russian?

 


 Grant, if this is question to me, I am a Moscovite so yes. I tried in Russian:)



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Tremendous find!!!

I hadn't Googled in Russian, but did come across several Russian articles that only had the usual photos.

Is any more information written in Russian?

Tony



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Tony,

I have found graphics which looks pretty accurate from my point of view. The only back girders I did in the different way.



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And one more. but this is looks like artwork.

 



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Unlike the model, a three-piece wheel's parts would have a very tight fit to stop mud/muck getting in, and if you blow up 10645896, you will see a faint line that appears to be a join.

Tony



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Hello ZigZag, (Anton), my question was aimed at Tonys, as he said he could only find three images online.

Grant

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A marvellous build, ZigZag. Your efforts have paid off.



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Very interesting and inspiring build. I have one that I bought at a quite low price by chance and your article will help me a lot.

 

All the best,



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