Landships II

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

What's on Mr.X's work bench...

James H · Legend

I think 2 & 3 are Holt-related. 5- or 10ton-tractor and 75hp?

Rob · Legend

A Holt would be great, especially with the Strelets artillery pieces. Unfortunately the Matador one is very disappointing

Roger Todd · Legend

Is the last one a Renault /Schneider Porteur Tractor of the type Tim Rigsby wrote about? I can't do a direct link on the new-style Landships II website, so go to 'Softskin Articles' and look at France...

James H · Legend

Roger Todd wrote:
Is the last one a Renault /Schneider Porteur Tractor?

�Zut! Monsieur Todd a raison!

Ironship · Private

This is going to be a 10-ton artillery tractor, Model 1917.� The location of the muffler on the armored hood is the tell tale.� The 5-ton had it's muffler on the other side of the hodd, and forward, like this:

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Jon�

Roger Todd · Legend

James H wrote:
Roger Todd wrote:
Is the last one a Renault /Schneider Porteur Tractor?
�Zut! Monsieur Todd a raison!

Aiee! Zut alors, haw haw hee haw!

That's O-level French (Grade C) for you...

When you say raison, is that a currant opinion?

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I'll get me coat...

Roger Todd · Legend

Ironship wrote:
This is going to be a 10-ton artillery tractor, Model 1917.� The location of the muffler on the armored hood is the tell tale.� The 5-ton had it's muffler on the other side of the hodd, and forward, like this:
Jon�

Hey, that looks good! Is that Bern's finished? I thought he was still working on it - I'm confused... confuse

Ironship · Private

Roger Todd wrote:
Hey, that looks good! Is that Bern's finished? I thought he was still working on it - I'm confused...

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No, this is a different kit.� You can see the full kit here:

http://commandermodels.com/armor/5ton.html

Bern's looks to be a 10-ton tractor, where as this kit is a 5-ton.� Ours is 1/35 scale, but I don't know what Bern's scale is.

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Jon

Roger Todd · Legend

Ah, got you - thanks for clearing that up!

PDA · Legend

Roger Todd wrote:
Is the last one a Renault /Schneider Porteur Tractor of the type Tim Rigsby wrote about? I can't do a direct link on the new-style Landships II website, so go to 'Softskin Articles' and look at France...

You can do direct links, like this:

Renault /Schneider Porteur Tractor on Landships II

and you can post images as well:

Roger Todd · Legend

I'm afraid I have no idea how you obtained that url. All I get is this (for any page in a particular section I look at, in this case for 'softskin articles'):

http://www.landships.info/landships/softskin_articles.html#

If, say, I look at any page in the 'Tanks' section, the url always appears thus:

http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles.html#

-- Edited by Roger Todd on Tuesday 10th of January 2012 04:15:46 AM

Rectalgia · Legend

Roger,

Once you navigate to the page, the direct link (with the magical "?load=" bit) is provided down at the very bottom of the page.

Steve

Roger Todd · Legend

So it is! I'd never noticed it, I feel a right idiot now...

Many thanks for the help!

-- Edited by Roger Todd on Tuesday 10th of January 2012 10:37:24 AM

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Well done everyone you can go to the top of the class smile Yes we have a Holt 10 ton and a Renault FB artillery tractor both in 1/72 scale.

Just finished the tracks for the Holt last night, the I beam in the pics cut to length will hold the bottom rollers, sprocket and idler.

The Renault FB is mocked up on a set of JMGT St Chamond tracks as they shared they same suspension but I'll be making a new set from scratch.

I'll keep you posted on the progress.

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Tuesday 10th of January 2012 12:15:15 PM

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Tuesday 10th of January 2012 12:16:11 PM

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Ironship wrote:
No, this is a different kit.� You can see the full kit here:
http://commandermodels.com/armor/5ton.html
Bern's looks to be a 10-ton tractor, where as this kit is a 5-ton.� Ours is 1/35 scale, but I don't know what Bern's scale is.
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Jon

That's a beautiful 5 ton kit you have there Jon... I almost wish I was doing 1/35 again cry

If you don't mind me asking where did you get the plans the master is sitting on?

Do�you know of any�for the 10 ton? I searched high and low while planning mine but as I couldn't find any ended up drawing my own. I think they're pretty accurate but it would be great to double check�before I go too much further.

Cheers

Bern

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diomichi · Lieutenant

Hello Bern,

a very special model you show us here, well done wink

I will keep an eye on it.

Regards

Michel

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Well it's been a while since I posted any updates, the Holt master will be re-done as I've now got more accurate information but the Renault FB master is nearing completion. I hope you like the pics.

Rob · Legend

Wow, that Renault is nice - are there any photos out there of one with a 1917 Canon de 155mm GPF on the back?

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Rob wrote:
Wow, that Renault is nice - are there any photos out there of one with a 1917 Canon de 155mm GPF on the back?

Thanks Rob.

Like this? and here's a couple more with a Renault FT and a Schneider 155C on the back.

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Tuesday 30th of October 2012 08:23:09 PM

Rob · Legend

Very nice - I do like the FT on the back! Good use for the HaT/Armourfast version too, covered with a tarp

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Rob wrote:
I do like the FT on the back! Good use for the HaT/Armourfast version too, covered with a tarp

�Yep that's deffo the best way to see a Hat FT-17!

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Just a quick update, rivetting is all finished now along with some of the small details so tracks and running gear next.

CharlieC · Legend

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The Renault FB was modified to carry the 155mm GPF gun - a large winch was added between the engine and driver. The proposal to portee a GPF progessed

to prototype but didn't make it into service use. The standard FB could portee field guns and howitzers up to 155mm so there's lots of choice of loads.

The French Army went with the Schneider CD as the tow vehicle for the 155mm GPF. The Renault FB suffered from having a Renault aero-engine as its

power plant -�used a lot of fuel and high maintenance requirements.

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Regards,

Charlie�

PDA · Legend

That's looking fantastic, Mr X!

As well as the HaT FT, I think it might make my Skytrex 155mm Schneider look good as well.

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

PDA wrote:
That's looking fantastic, Mr X!
As well as the HaT FT, I think it might make my Skytrex 155mm Schneider look good as well.

Why thank you PDA� smile �

A 155mm Schneider would be a legitimate load and if the Skytrex kit isn't that great you could always use Rob's tarp trick!�

Did a bit more last night on the master so I'll post some pics up later this week.

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Cheers

Bern

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Small update radiator's finished, capstan for the winch turned from sprue, and the checker plate being applied to the load area... I'm just putting off starting the tracks!!!�

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Well the track units are underway now so here are a few more period pics to celebrate!

The first one is the modified 155GPF carrier and has different shackles to the picture previously posted.

The second one is the only rear view I've ever seen and the last one looks like it has an American crew?

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Wednesday 5th of December 2012 08:41:54 AM

baldwin · Hero

Bernie

Looking good. Well done.

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

baldwin wrote:
Bernie
Looking good. Well done.

�Thanks Barry.

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Latest updates, track bogies underway and all the checkerplate finished. Thought I'd mock it all up to how it looks.

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Cheers

Bernie

TinCanTadpole · Legend

Looks very good.

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

TinCanTadpole wrote:
Looks very good.

Thanks TCT (can I call you that???)

Nothing too exciting but here are a few update pictures...

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Monday 17th of December 2012 09:27:50 PM

TinCanTadpole · Legend

CrashandBern wrote:
Thanks TCT (can I call you that???)

�Certainly, be my guest.

Your method for modelling the bogies and their rollers is simple but very effective; I'll look forward to seeing more pics as the work progresses.

baldwin · Hero

Bernie

looking great.

Nothing to do with the model but I am also fascinated with the young lady by your Sopwith Camel.Any chance of some more pic's of her as well !!!!

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

TinCanTadpole wrote:
Your method for modelling the bogies and their rollers is simple but very effective; I'll look forward to seeing more pics as the work progresses.

�Thanks TCT I like simple... complicated gives me a headache� confuse

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

baldwin wrote:
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Nothing to do with the model but I am also fascinated with the young lady by your Sopwith Camel.Any chance of some more pic's of her as well !!!!

�Sorry Barry that's the only picture of the lovely lady I have but I do have a much higher res version for your appreciation....

baldwin · Hero

A whole new meaning to "on yer bike"

Many thanks Bernie,just what my ego needed !!!!!!!!!!

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

Any time, I hope you don't find her too distracting!

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

The track units are going together now with springs made from stretched sprue wound around styrene rod... getting the coil spacing and tension uniform was fiddly and time consuming but I think it worked out ok in the end.

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Sunday 30th of December 2012 05:42:24 PM

-- Edited by CrashandBern on Sunday 30th of December 2012 05:47:21 PM

PDA · Legend

Flippin' 'eck that looks fiddly!

I have spent 3 hours making a towing shackle for my Mk IV, and it is only one piece. In that time you have scratch built the track unit for your Renault FB.

looks great, CrashandBern, looks great.